Cheating in Medical School + USMLE Scandal Follow Up

Was the USMLE Nepal scandal really cheating? That’s the question that’s been on everyone’s mind in the comments from our last video. I team up with Shaun Anderson again to cover USMLE scandal updates as well as cheating in medical school in general. ✍️

Why is everyone confident that the USMLE scandal was really cheating? How often do people cheat in medical school? How do performative substances like Adderall both enhance and hinder your success? 💊 We answer these questions and more!

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction
00:23 Nepal Scandal & Comments Overview
05:59 Cheating Culture in Medicine
11:30 The Principles of Cheating
18:17 Impostor Syndrome & Shortcuts

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[kevinjubbalmd]

Share your stories!🫣 Have you heard about or witnessed cheating at your college or medical school?

[MannyFresh]

Feeling kinda gaslit. There is a lot of med school cheating that happens across the country lmfaooo

[thesneakygamer]

Don’t understand how this is controversial. This is clearly cheating.

[valuery]

For me its kinda creepy that educated people don't understand why it was a cheating thing.

[presto]

I think this conversation is interesting in the context of the roughly 2 years of COVID when classes were online. In undergrad, it's an open secret that most students used outside resources or their notes on exams since they were online. For me, professors took two routes. 1) They acknowledged that they couldn't stop people from using notes, so they signed off on the idea and 'allowed it' but largely limited the amount of time on each question (45-60 seconds per) to disallow spending a lot of time looking up questions. 2) Professor made us have a camera on zoom pointed at us and our monitor that we were taking the test on.

I'd be interested to see people's GPAs from 2019-2021 and see if they tended to be higher than the following 2-3 years.

I personally feel a bit of imposter syndrome from those two years. Classes were undoubtably easier, and I had some classes that were simply made completely open note. Have to keep in mind that my last two years were when I took the actual pre-reqs and they were all in person, and I did just as well, haha

[Nbarboza]

It’s not that old, the pencil and paper concept is still happening! My courses have “clicker” questions that can be either on an app during class or done on paper to prepare students for taking quizzes/exams on paper and pencil.

[mydearriley]

I worry that the extend anti-medication sentiments actually leave room for the stigmatization of the groups of people who do do really on medications, even if they are taking medications as prescribed.

[JayFitNurse]

the only thing that I don't agree with in this video is the source of imposter syndrome that you mentioned.... when I found out that I got accepted, the amount of excitement that I felt was incredible, but it was short lived. the next day I woke up with some imposter syndrome... that point in my life ive been dreaming about since I was 15 years old (im 30 now). I didn't always have a good college gpa but as some maturity set in I realized it was time to lock in... I was able to bring my gpa from a 1.9 to a 4.0 prior to applying. through the use of Honors classes I was able to achieve this feat... in that moment of my short lived impostor syndrome I just started thinking about all the students I beat out, amazing students at that ... and that kind of psyched me out a bit you know.. not because I didn't work hard enough to get here its just the thought of the long journey to finally be here and the idea of "wow I really did it, I could have ..." you know

[Thatguy-mojd]

Agree with everything but the adderall thing. The idea that it is not cheating if you get prescribed adderall and score better but if it is not prescribed you cheated?!

[YASIR-zrot]

Will NBME investigate other countries?
I don't think it's just Nepal; definitely, there are cheaters in other countries.

[nhanguyenlt]

The education system in the US has reached to the “ideal” status but not all countries have similar conditions to do that.

[victorspitz]

pen and paper was funny dude 😂😂 kevin definitely felt that…

[RashadKhalaf]

I do believe that this was cheating plain and simple. But on the other hand I don't Think the NBME are being generous with anything. They clearly have a very flawed system of testing that allowed for something like this to happen. And an answer like if we need to change it it will cost you much more to take the exam is simply not acceptable for the supposed best training programs in the entire world. Plus any doctor who practiced medicine can argue that more than half of the material we study before graduating is not really relevant in real world practice so the idea of i want a doctor to treat me who scored 270 or something on usmles (especially step 1) does not hold well.
My opinion is they need to deeply reassess their testing methods and this system needs a much needed update or this kind of things will happen in different forms and from different areas around the world time and time again.

[khumbolanetembo]

So its a breach of contract event. That's fair enough. Personally I wouldnt call it exam cheating.

[Sickdude]

Recall is perfectly fine. All the consultants and fellows literally advise looking at recall. Lol.

[samuelkaw]

17:55 I think they mean Habitica, right?

[GarrukishVol]

I appreciate this so much! I am starting CRNA school soon, and currently hearing a lot of people talking about taking stims. This helped me refocus and reminded me that I can do it without! gracias man

[brennengodeen]

I mean we do pay hundreds to thousands of dollars to take these exams. They are graded electronically and they are reusing repeated questions with any updates

[tfalgar]

Later on you guys are gonna realize that studying to make your patient better is a whole lot more satisfying than getting high grades

[counterpoint]

What watch are you wearing in this vid? Looks good. Great video as usual.