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[LeejaMiller]

⁉ What do you think? Are term limits still a good idea?

[BeeKay]

At 75, my grandmother wasn't allowed to go down the stairs to the basement anymore. She should have just run for Congress.

[vpsoundlabs]

People who no longer understand the world they live in, making the rules for a world they won’t even be in. It’s madness

[georgevlachos]

Getting rid of citizens united would work better than term limits. Enforce the hatch act in congress as well as other federal employees.

[yourneighbourino]

I think allowing citizens to issue recalls for elected officials they’re not satisfied with would also be a good idea

[ulfg]

Isn't it kind of a coincidence, that it's usually professions of power (senators, judges, CEO's, etc. etc.) that never want to retire. Most people look forward to the day when they can quit working and spend their times doing things they love.

Power is addictive, and these people are all addicts. That is why they can't quit. If they quit, they die, similar to that of people that are long gone into heavy opioid addiction.

[Housewarmin]

I don't think people are screaming for term limits, but AGE limits. You have to be 35 to run for president. There needs to but an age cut off.

[richardspillers]

Its not just about whether their age hinders them or not.

We've got folks between the ages of 60 and 90 years old making decisions for us and our children and their children and their children with consequences they will not have to suffer through.

[rileyabarker]

Hey Leeja, political science student at Rice University here. I love your work and am constantly impressed by the breadth of topics you cover, fantastic production quality and consistency of your episodes. Keep up the amazing work!!

Respectfully, however, this is the first video you’ve made that I disagree with completely and I figured I’d make the “pro term limits case” stronger for the comment section. You make an excellent pragmatic case for why term limits are unlikely to become a feature of American government any time soon but I find the core theoretical arguments against ever implementing term limits fairly weak. That politicians need institutional knowledge requiring they stay in government for decades, somehow are less likely to pass through the revolving door to move into lobbying if term unlimited, would never logically term limit themselves and that it’s hard to amend the constitution do not strike me as good enough reasons to oppose term limits on principle.

Why don’t we push for all of it? Nationally implement ranked choice voting. Leave district border creation to independent commissions and mandate political boundaries be contiguous and regularly shaped to fight gerrymandering. Abolish the electoral college. No corporate money in politics. Publicly finance elections. Close lobbying loopholes. No politicians in government over the age of 75. Term limit senators after 3 terms. Term limit house members after 9 terms. Term limit SC justices every 18 years.

In my ideal term limited world, everyone in government gets 18 years to make change and the president gets half that time because of their outsized constitutional influence. It’s often cited that Jefferson thought Americans should rewrite the entire constitution every 19 years..and yeah! It makes sense! It’s the length of a generation. Democracy needs institutional knowledge and a certain level of consistency but it also needs turnover and the maintenance of healthy competition.

For this reason term limits resist the label “undemocratic”; they are, on the contrary, extremely democratic. They, in concert with other reforms, reduce barriers to entry in political markets and are the only way to effectively check incumbency advantage which is inherently undemocratic. Left unchecked, a successful representative can monopolize control of the entire electoral apparatus of a district…effectively barring challengers until the retirement or death of that representative.

I’m thinking you probably read the Heritage Foundation’s pro term limit argument and thought “yikes, gotta make a video about the downsides of term limits” and valid: the HF is scary and wrong all the time. However….this issue goes beyond partisanship as evidenced by polling on the matter.

P.S While we’re idealizing democracy let’s go further: how about making the senate proportional and adding Puerto Rico and DC as states…bit of a pipe dream maybe but fair representation calls for it.

[colinvandenberg]

Ending congressional gerrymandering would also go a long way towards easing the problems caused by aging lawmakers. It could raise the bar for winning reelection and keep a number of unworthy politicians out of office. I feel like it would reduce terms more naturally.

[justinhoward]

The Leeja Miller Cinematic Universe is slowly weaving together.

[scifirealism]

Funny these politicians went to college when it was $900/year, I'd like to see them pay for college now.

[spinninglovelies]

We have term limits in Missouri in 2016 it almost broke our legislature because a bunch of our civil servants had also been fired or quit. It took an entire session for people to figure out how to do their jobs and the years since have been a mess (for a lot of reasons) but this is definitely one of them.

I could never support term limits because I've seen how bad it can get if too many people are termed out at the same time.

[RoyalKingOliver]

Term limits isn’t the issue plaguing our fair representation in Congress…

It’s the fact that there’s not enough members for fair representation. We can’t have 1 person represent 800k people.

[monkeyflower]

I've always said that we don't need term limits because we can vote people out of office any time we want. We just don't. Too many people just reflexively vote for the incumbent, in both primaries and general elections, when that incumbent is a member of the party that voter generally supports. And because of this, incumbents are rarely challenged in their primaries. Sometimes when there are primary challengers, the incumbent does lose in the primary. That's how AOC got elected, and Cori Bush. But those are outliers. Primary challenges of the incumbent are typically discouraged by the party leadership. I think this problem would take care of itself if we would just normalize serious primary challenges for incumbents.

[Mr.tone]

If retirement age is 65 for Americans, then it should be for all Americans. Including Supreme court justices, and politicians

[derf]

Mandatory retirement age for sure! 65, 70, 75 doesn't matter as long as there is one.

[KarlMalowned]

I’ve been correcting friends for years “No not term limits, AGE limits. That’s what we need.”

[moosenugget]

Thank you for this video! I;m really glad that you laid out all of the cons of simple term limits, especially on Congress.

With the disdain that many Americans feel towards Congress and the political paralysis it's experiencing, many don't know or have forgotten that its existence as a strong, structured institution is part of what makes it function correctly. They forget that in years past, members of Congress and their families spent a lot of time with each other and became friends, and they'd often lean on those hidden-from-the-voters friendships to pass legislation. We clearly see the price of the polarization and de-institutionalization most clearly in the House, when Paul Gosar made that veiled threat against AOC, and in the crazy new members that the GOP have gotten into the House.

[andressanchez]

I never understood why when Americans (from the USA) disscussed a topic would say "this is in the constitution" as if it was the bible, I always thought, why can't they just completely change it? Thanks for explaining!!!