God is RETURNING to SCIENCE? - Dr Stephen Meyer

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Justin Brierley interviews controversial philosopher of science Dr Stephen Meyer, about his recent book "Return of the God Hypothesis". Stephen shares the latest advances in the field of "Intelligent Design", ranging from design inferences that can be drawn from the origin of the universe, the fine-tuning of the universe, the information content of the living cell, and even from attempts of atheist materialists to try to avoid the God Hypothesis!

Extracts from this interview featured in Justin's podcast documentary "The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God".

00:00:00 Coming up…
00:00:40 Introduction
00:01:08 Darwinism is in trouble
00:05:42 Isn’t I.D. God of the gaps?
00:09:03 What about the Dover School trial?
00:13:21 Has the I.D. stigma changed?
00:15:57 Big Bang points to design?
00:23:44 Objections to beginning & cause of the universe
00:30:04 Is there a bias against God?
00:32:31 Fine-tuning points to design?
00:37:14 Puddle objection to design
00:42:38 "C.R.A.P." objection to design
00:45:40 Multiverse defeats design?
00:52:42 About The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God podcast
00:54:29 Own-goals from trying to avoid design
00:56:29 Origin of life points to design?
01:03:56 Dawkins is wrong about life arising by chance
01:09:15 What about naturalistic models of life?
01:12:23 Aesthetic objections to I.D.
01:15:47 Paul Davies’ views on I.D.
01:19:53 Conclusion
01:23:46 Next!
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This is just anecdotal observation but I thought I’d mention it. I graduated for medical school about 50 years ago. I knew then there was something weird going on when I studied biochemistry, physiology, chemistry, embryology and about every other ology, you can imagine.
The more I learned about the specifics of these various disciplines the more I wondered how any of this could work so seamlessly. I couldn’t imagine the amount of concise manipulation of the genetic code would be required to make the simplest stereochemical change in an enzyme as an example.Even if you knew what sequence of amino acids would be required to yield an active site on an enzyme, how would you know how to manipulate the nucleotide sequence in the DNA molecule to be able to manufacture that particular protein? Anyway, the more I learned about the more I realized how little we know and we know an awful lot. It’s just that, like anything in life the more you know the more you know you don’t know..

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I understand the mathematical reasoning leading to the conclusion that quantum math equations need a mathematician's living mind to decide those equations necessary for the beginning of a time, space fine-tuned physics Universe. At sunset in the south hemisphere of Central Africa, I looked at the sky and was filled with immense joy: In my mind, I heard: Manuel, you are part of All this beauty! It was so magnificent an impression that I spoke loudly: I Thank You for having Created me.

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On the random chance of producing a simple protein example Dr. Myer speaks to, even if you came up with a protein by random, what would:
- Preserve it
- Utilize it
- Reproduce it

the "What" necessary to answer these questions exist yet - all you have is a randomly produced protein that folds in a way that might be useful with nothing to contain it in order to preserve it, use it, and reproduce it.

This explanation of the problem massively under estimates the totality of what is needed to produce the first life.

And we haven't even touched the chemistry and laws of thermodynamics problems with abiogenesis.

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The Bible is the most interresting book, and once you have a handle on who Jesus is he changes you to a point where you regret your whole previous existence. To repent and believe in Him is life changing. Things make sense again and fear vanishes like fog.

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No, Dr. Meyer you didn't go too long. Just when I started to feel lost you somehow managed to crystalize your profound point/argument in a way I could intellectually grasp. Outstanding work---thank you.

MicStowe
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Who would believe a book is not written from a mind, an intelligent source? No one. Yet some believe the entire universe was created without a mind. Go figure.

Shawn-nqdu
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Justin, Randy J. GUliuzza, of the Institute of Creation Research in Dallas, Texas, says, "Biology needs a theory of biological design."
He has degrees in both Medicine and Engineering and this has led him to look at biology as something that has been engineered. He has written on, "Why biology needs a theory of biological design."
I think that this topic would produce a great podcast to follow this one. Stephen argued for intelligent design. Randy goes the next step and says, Let's look at biology as something that didn't occur by random processes, but required careful engineering.
I look forward to hearing such a program.

roblangsdorf
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I once quipped that Universe wouldn't know it exists without us.

mariocerin
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As a christian biologist I love this conversations! Real science points to the truth... and the truth is a person...

monicatorres
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Stephen myer is doing some incredible work.
Frank turek always asks atheists an important question “if Christianity were true would you become a Christian?”
Many still say no, so it’s not about “proof” as they always claim, they hate the idea of a god, they hate the fact that they can be held to a higher standard to which they do not want to be held too. So that is why people are still denying Stephen myers incredible work. Apparently people in the comment section know more than Stephen myer 😂

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You're doing the Lord's work Dr. Meyer. I don't know if you understand how important your voice is, but in this dark world where people run around aimlessly falling into into deeper and deeper darkness, you're a saving grace. Thank you! God bless you!!!!

And to all the deaf and blind people commenting, if God is not real, nothing in this world (waking up to work, paying your bills, defending innocents, losing weight) it doesn't matter, you will die anyway. There's NO hope. period. It all sucks. Everyday you have to put up with BS from everything around you and maybe get a few moments of joy in between. No hope.

So now, understand what Jesus did... he resurrected. He defeated death. And then he told his disciples to go forth and tell everyone the good news.... that is, the Gospel.

Costenita
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Awesome conversation. Thank you Justin for asking the right questions and what a mind God has blessed Dr Meyer with! Greatful to be alive and hear these responses.

mkristofulani
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The biggest problem I see today with scientific philosophy in it’s general consensus with it’s materialistic and naturalistic perspective is it’s rigidity of thought. In many ways, scientists have become unwilling to accept new ideas regardless of how well an argument is presented concerning any deficiencies in their current positions.
One needs to at times to stand outside and consider a minority view to maybe see things in a different way in order to be more objective. All to often when ID or creationism is brought up, a wave of emotionalism erupted and an ad hominem attack replaces a more fruitful argument.
I see this even more so with scientists arguing with James Tour. Even with all his scientific experience and knowledge, they deride him as a creationist rather than address his arguments and concerns with facts or data. I find this very telling.

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Stephen is such a gift to the ID inclined. Extremely interesting and insightful interview. Thank You!!

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Denis Noble is also challenging Neo Darwinism but still takes a materialistic position. Michael Levin’s work is doing a similar thing but also from a materialistic position. The big difference between this and that of even a decade ago is the recognition that Science is agnostic with regards to God and all other world views. This is good for both Science and philosophy because it requires the Scientist and the philosopher to acknowledge their biases as they approach their work. This can only be healthy.

johnandrews
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Great conversation! Pray these conversations catch fire and really wake people up to the truth and reality of what is good.

Cyllene
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Dawkins' speculations don't count as scientific evidence...

jonatasmachado
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@1:12:36 - It takes putting one’s pride away to being humble about God. It takes the Holy Spirit to convict you of truth and righteousness. It takes repentance, aka changing your mind about the God of the Bible; To convince an unbeliever the ability to believe God created everything.
— There are many verses in the Bible talking about there’s the knowledge of God within everyone ever born; That they suppress their knowledge of God in unrighteousness.

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Gerd Muller commenting on SM misrepresenting his presentation: "Disagreements about the theory of how evolution works, do not call the facts of biological evolution into doubt. This is where most ID design advocates make a jump in their argument that is simply not warranted. SM does not use my criticism of the standard evolution theory in the sense in which it was intended" - This does not sound like a man who thinks evolution is false.

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I see Dr Stephen Meyer : I watch the video

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