2017 Personality 04/05: Heroic and Shamanic Initiations

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In this lecture, 04 and 05 combined, I discuss the relationship between the initiatory structure characteristic of shamanism and the process of radical personality transformation, self- or therapy-induced. The basic structure is order/paradise, chaos/the fall, re-establishment of order/paradise. Since all paradises fall, however, the true paradise is identification with the process of transformation itself.

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Peterson is a true gift to mankind. It’s unfortunate that many people have grossly inaccurate views about him.

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What a world we live in. To have immediate access to a man as brilliant as Dr. Peterson, with a simple click of a button.

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I wonder how many other "jordan Petersons" are out there giving talks to enlighten people and are still not discovered. Thanks to the postmodernist who shined light on this avatar.

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"The strength that you develop in your monstrousness is actually the best guarantee of peace" 20:46. I don't know how JP always come up with these one liner on the the spot, but everytime i re-listen to his lectures i learn something new.

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I live in the Yukon - a place of mystery in the long, and cold dark winter. But I have my fire and Jordy and a bottle of wine and life could not be richer. I appreciate the fact that folks at a distance are tuning in. Makes the mystery kind of shine.

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I am so thankful that I can partake in this knowledge, for free, from my seat, with a hot chocolate. Very happy indeed.

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I've been studying psychology for afew years now and I admit I lost most of my passion for it due to various reasons. While watching your lectures I remembered why I chose this field in the first place. I cannot thank you enough. We NEED more teachers like you. Please keep on doing what you're doing.

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I'm a professional psychologist and even though I already know most of these things, Jordan's lectures are some of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Amazing guy

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Favorite quote: *shakes fist* That's a mega chimp, man

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I love listening to Jordan Peterson while I’m working through my 12h shift at the factory... time seems to exit peacefully without my awareness ever gazing upon the clock or other distractions. So grateful for the lessons.

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Everytime my thoughts are facing an incoherent crisis or when my general thought patterns are in disarray a thought sometimes pops up to watch one of JP's lectures. When I do his sense of wisdom, rationality and experience allow me to atleast make sense of the world again. Thank you.

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"I'm not a fan of moral relativism... for a variety of reasons... partly because I think it is an extreme form of cowardice."

I love how Peterson sometimes comes out with these marvelously cutting little asides.

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Fascinating man. I'm so glad we have the opportunity, through YouTube and the like, to hear his lectures. As someone who went to an opposing university in the city, I envy the opportunity to hear his lectures live!

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Man, your lectures are like a potion.

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Something just popped into my head when Peterson was talking about the Lion King, something relating to life and death and good and evil. We normally do NOT celebrate someone being killed, in fact we think of it as one of the worst crimes that someone can commit. But when we kill an "evil" person we celebrate it, and hardly notice that killing took place. So when Symba killed Scar we cheered, because good triumphed over evil. When Osama Bin Laden was killed, we cheered, because good triumphed over evil. In other words, we are more attached to our emotions of what people represent (good and evil) then the people themselves. We don't cheer that a human life was taken, we cheer that what that life represents was taken, namely that evil was vanquished (at least momentarily). Even many pacifists cheer the death of a tyrant. It's fascinating.

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What a great mind and great delivery of ideas. I watch Jordan's lectures at home - by myself - via the internet and yet still break into spontaneous applause at the end of these lectures.

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16:54 metareal 24:07
54:32 go in the underworld on purpose
1:10:14 adapated to the meta reality
1:11:03 brain can tell when optimally situated between chaos and order
1:13:04
1:15:23 unconcious mediates
1:24:53
1:26:45 slide
1:28:52 Heroic and Shamanic Initiations
1:32:07 slide
1:36:02 slide transformation
1:36:35 creative illness
1:56:00 resentful
2:09:45 agoraphobic considerations, what are you actually afrad of
2:26:18 initiation

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I love his lectures and how he brings in his family's childhoods as examples. It reminds me he's not just some academic, but human.

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It's hard to even comprehend how valuable Jordan's lectures and his precious his care for human kind is

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