Manjaro GNOME Shows Why Distros Shouldn't Ship Themes

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It seems like we can't go more than a few weeks without Manjaro giving me something fun to talk about and being used as a counter example of what should be done with a distro and GNOME is no exception

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I want to make this clear, in this case manjaro is the example but this can happen to any distribution that ships custom themes and doesn't actively test them

BrodieRobertson
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The fact that Manjaro got a "oh god please don't do this" developer movement started MORE THAN ONCE is genuinely impressive.

yuvalne
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Manjaro trying not to screw everything up for 5 minutes challenge (impossible)

probablyjohn
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Manjaro has been providing solid entertainment for over a decade now. Only ancient gamers will remember the time their website SSL cert expired and the maintainer made a news post with a solution that consisted of changing your system date to a time before the expiration

excidium
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manjaro was always supposed to be a more stable arch but it has been complete opposite of that for quite a while now.
manjaro has broken a ton times on me to the point i had to reinstall the entire system while arch shockingly has never failed me. as much as it hurts because manjaro was my first linux distro, i wouldn't recommend it to people anymore.

nobu
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EndeavourOS is my go-to for half a dozen different work laptops. Just a little friendlier Arch and a gorgeous theme.
And the almighty Garuda for home machine 😈

bombrix
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ahh manjaro, I remember my 1st step and quickly found a massive rabbit hole after an update that broke everything. Truly a fascinating specimen to even live this long

middyjohn
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I just use vanilla arch btw.

But seriously yeah while theming can be a lot more flexible, a distro needs to be quite sure they have the means to maintain things downstream and quickly catch problems theoretically before they make it to production, and quickly fix them if it does.

Aeduo
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I wrote a TODO list for the winter holidays, and replacing my Manjaro installation with another distribution is on top of the list. It's a constant stream of failures, inconveniences and weird behavior.

anlumo
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The attitude of Manjaro devs and their sycophants in the community is 100% why I only lasted about 2 months there. Now I split time in the Endeavour and Arch communities and it's been wonderful.

bstar
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I actually use this theme on my Linux installs, mainly because I like the Safari-esque look of "tabs placed below address bar". While I do have to thank Manjaro for turning me onto the theme in the first place, I have to agree that it should not be shipped with the distro, and if it is should not be on by default

marioguy
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I think this is yet another argument to not use Manjaro and further proof that you should just use Arch so that you can check and test things yourself, because the Manjaro team clearly doesn't

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The court jester of Linux distros strike again

yamaddie
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People can't even stop themselves from submitting unfinished distributions to DistroWatch against the express wishes of the developers, they're never gonna listen when a dev tells them where to report bugs.

kpcraftster
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I understand that Firefox's userchrome.css is a clunky way to theme Firefox because I use a custom one myself that I personally monitor. But shipping GTK2/3/4 themes is not the same, which is what the Don't Theme My App people want stopped primarily. And my answer to them is, if you don't want your app broken by a theme that works perfectly on 99% of the other apps out there, it might be a _your app_ problem after all, not necessarily a theme problem. Most distro-provided themes for GNOME are made using Adwaita as a template anyway, Yaru being one example, and I just can't see that breaking anything unless that thing is specifically designed badly.

bippaasama
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I'm learning more and more about Manjaro thanks to you 😄

aloneer
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Just found your channel. I've been using Manjaro Gnome as my main OS for around two years now. I loved it until around half a year or so when things started getting unstable and bloated. It's a damn shame, too, because Manjaro Gnome is genuinely one of my favorite distros of all time.

Kernfederate
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I have used Manjaro for a long time and just recently switched to Garuda Gnome. I still like Manjaro and hope it will improve in the future and become more stable. That Firefox Gnome Theme was actually always the first thing I removed after a Manjaro installation. I couldn't get used to this tab style and it made Firefox harder to use for me.

raver-umiu
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celebrating manjarÑõ. been sober for a year so far. happy manjarÑõ everyone!!

xslvrxslwt
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9:55 Bingo. If they did that, watch Firefox's usage go down like a stone. Not excusing Manjaro, but yeah, Mozilla isn't exactly in a good position right now...

cameronbosch