GERMANY'S CONTROVERSIAL INTERCITY TRAIN / DB IC2 TWINDEXX VARIO REVIEW

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Hello and welcome back to Germany for an Intercity review on the channel!

Today we will be seeing if the controversial DB IC2 Twindexx Vario sets are worthy of the Intercity name, or are they just a glorified regional train with carpets... Enjoy the video!

Date of Filming: 22/9/21
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: Deutsche Bahn (DB)
Departure: Dresden Hbf, Germany
Arrival: Leipzig Hbf, Germany
Cost: Adult First Class Super Saver - €29.90 (£25.24, $33.84)

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NonstopEurotrip
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To add another perspektive to the controversy: back in the 90s there was a great *InterRegio* Network. Basically long distance regional trains (capable of 160kph!) which were a very cheap alternative to the ICEs, especially when using a "Wochenend-Ticket" -- there was no need to book stuff in advance.

That IC2 is basically replacing what had been scrapped 20 years ago... with marginal extra comfort for premium pricing.

michaelmuller
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Cool video, I’d definitely say it’s more of an intercity than a glorified regional train from a Danish perspective, I’d say it’s much nicer and brighter than our regional double deckers but has a lot of the same features as our double deckers! Watching this from isolation! Thank you so much for the content it’s interesting!

Denden
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I love that you don’t talk or play music over your videos, very nice to hear all the other sounds and makes me feel like I am back in my home country

MrStevan
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One of the reasons these are also controversial is the top speed. Not that 160kph is very slow, it's just that the old IC1 sets from the 70s and 80s these are replacing can do 200kph. So 160 is quite a downgrade.

Also the 2nd series, wich features DB class 147 locos, have quite a few software problems. So much so that at one point DB refused to take delivery of new sets from Bombardier. Like for example the bord computer frequently crashes when the train is supposed to change direction of travel. And Bombardier/Alstom never managed to get them certified for use in Switzerland, wich is now completely scrapped (DB now want's to use the Stadler Flirts IC sets for that route).

mici
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Love your channel! Discovered your channel through Dylan’s Travel Reports (another great channel!). Great video! Beautiful train stations & amazing canopies!

AA__
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I think the main difference, and essential ingredient for IC/ICE is the small pillow on the seats to rest your head on. I love those !

theswissmonkey
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As a guy who lives in Leipzig and study in Dresden I really enjoyed your video! This route was btw Germanys first long distance railway, opened in 1839. If you visit Leipzig again, you can go on top of the tower at Augustusplatz in the city center to have a nice view. Also you can take one of the trams (second largest german tram-network) and take a ride to the famous "Völkerschlachtdenkmal".
Keep up your great work!

haraldkrull_kapitaenzursee
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For longer trips, it often pays to play around with the options. I was once riding the train from Innsbruck (Austria) to Erfurt, and the cheapest(!) option proved to be First Class with a bicycle. It was cheaper than First Class without the bicycle and even cheaper than Second Class. Apparently, there were leftover First Class seats with reserved bicycle spots.
9:30 About here you were passing the site of the first German rail tunnel (ok, ok, there has been a tunnel at a field railway, but this one was not public), built between 1837 and 1839, the so called Oberauer Tunnel. Here the rails cross the terminal moraine of the Saale glaciation. Being too small for two rail service, the tunnel was replaced by a cut through the hills in the 1930ies. Today, only an obelisk above the station Niederau remembers the tunnel.
13:30 My personal theory why Leipzig Hauptbahnhof is so large is bragging. It was built as a joint project of Prussian State Railways and Royal Saxon State Railways, which each had a terminal in Leipzig. Because each of the railway companies, being representative of their respective country, had different interests regarding Leipzig's connection to rails, there was intense infighting, often called Prussian-Saxon Railway Wars. As no company wanted to look stingy or corwardly, they agreed on the most pompous project plans possible.

SiqueScarface
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I must say these station buildings look gorgeous. Great video as always. Thanks!!

itsmetaran
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Excellent video! Have an IC 2 in my collection of n scale trains! It was great to be able to see the inside of the prototype and learn more about it! Thank you!

juliocantuaria
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You folks in Europe are so lucky to have had the foresight to establish such a tremendously efficient and comfortable rail network. I have to chuckle when I see videos like this that describe the "controversial" nature of various European trains that, by comparison are, and will remain, light years ahead of what the U.S. will ever be able to field. Since becoming an automobile driven society after the mid 1940's rail service here in the U.S. has all but become a third tier transportation network.
Amtrak has some fantastic transcontinental routes that are a wonder (and fun way) to travel long distances but they are only once a day (at best), barely reliable schedule wise (freight traffic takes precedence), extremely expensive, and antiquated by modern standards of fuel efficiency and comfort ability standards. For those that are true train buffs, Amtrak is like a ride through the glory days of rail travel in the U.S. If you've got the time and the money to enjoy the experience it's pretty much an opportunity not to be missed.
For anything else, take your car or fly the route. Outside of the Northeast corridor or within major urban centers commuter rail services here in the U.S. are pretty dismal, if not altogether non existent.
Kudos mate. I enjoy your videos. Can't wait to enjoy European rail services once again once Covid is under control.

major
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Much better than the old IC‘s. Thank you for this Great video:)

arjeton
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Looked perfectly fine to me. I was surprised how quiet it was on board. . And despite all of the station canopies I've seen, on my travels I still think London Paddington is the grandest of all. Enjoyable video as always .

danadidas
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Thank you for an excellent review. I really like the IC2 trains and cannot understand what all the fuss is about. Having travelled in several of them, in 1st Class, I found them extremely comfortable and sitting upstairs gives wonderful views ! The D.B have been very wise in using these trains on routes where any of the ICE units would be inappropriate. How I wish we had trains like the IC2 in the U.K !

anthonywarrener
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I had the chance to stop by at Dresden Hbf a loooong ago on a service to Prague which broke down unexpectedly and had to wait there until a replacement one arrived. I find it, jointly with St Pancras, Antwerp and Milano Cle, one of the prettiest stations I have ever been to. Gorgeous building.
Regarding the ride, I think it was more than satisfactory considering the time elapsed, can't imagine why they would complain! Cheers

kkm
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10:27 Note yellow stickers on the door indicating that it's not working. You need to go to the other end if you want to go out.
I guess the train is ok for shorter trips like this but I would not enjoy taking it all day from one end of the country to the other.

uncinarynin
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We have an IC2 (also going as RE34 between Dortmund and Dillenburg) in Iserlohn-Letmathe. Honestly, i travelled with that train quite a bit (also between Hagen and Wuppertal one time) and personally, i really like it. It's quiet and i get around fairly quickly.

WhatTheFrames
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In Czechia, we have a similar case of a regional train converted to "intercity" by simply upgrading seats and making the train a bit longer. It is called InterPanter, manufactured by Škoda Electric and based on RegioPanter platform. Instead of two or three carriages, it has five or six. And, to be honest, it is not bad. The ride is smooth enough, the train has a good acceleration, wide doors, space for bikes, Wi-Fi and large windows offering great view of the Czech landscape. I think, there is a niche for such trains.

CZpersi
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I used this type of train between Singen and Stuttgart. This line was sold as IC and as RE(Regional Express) at the same time, to get the subvention for regional traffic from Baden-Wurttemberg. And the number of stops on that line were equal to an RE and not to an IC. This link also was involved into a discussion, on wether it can be used with the present
cheap regional monthly tickets (fom June to August)

o.-w.heinze