The Moomin Iceberg

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ORIGINAL ICEBERG:
(big thanks to mars, I hope it's okay that I read out your iceberg and altered it. you're super cool and I respect your love for moomins!!)

MUSIC:
Dusk stars -- Night in the Woods
Pierogis in the Dark - Night in the Woods
Various songs from the 1990's Moomin soundtrack
Cipher - Lemmino
Encounters - Lemmino

OTHER LINKS:

thanks for watching this moomin iceberg. i really love moomins and It was so fun making this! also snufkin said gay rights. let me know if you're interested in other moomin videos :D i also recommend using subtitles because i stumble over my words sometimes

(not intended for kids, mentions of alcohol, smoking, guns, swearing, and the 1969 moomins)
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Enjoyed it! Should be noted that the 1978 Fillyjonk film is actually not lost, I had just missed that it got uploaded when I wrote that original post, haha. Also, I don't remember saying the Martians are gay, but I agree with myself, they definitely are! /Mars Mom on this other strange account, oh my!

Transparencyboo
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CANT forget the panels of little my holding up signs that say "SLUT" cause, yaknow, it means "the end" in swedish

vic
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Fun fact: The 1969 anime series was one of the earliest projects Hayao Miyazaki ever worked on. He was thought to have animated many of the action scenes with the tanks and planes that Tove despised. He also disagreed with Tove when she said her characters would never drive, smoke, drink, or use guns. Also great job I found this on the subreddit. :)

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Tove writting political satire for Garm during the second world war in which she mocked both Nazi's and the Soviet Union is not perhaps understood on how brave and risky it was. If Nazi's win the war, those writings are her death sentence. If Soviet Union conquers Finland, those writings are her death sentence. Of course we have modern hindsight to know that neither of those things happend but people at the time didn't have that luxury.

roopelotjonen
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As a Finn it's so weird to have people talk about books I literally have on my shelf at home as "impossible to find" or "did you know this excists???!!"

Anyway Mini is just a guest. In the unwanted guest book there are a LOT of characters who aren't mentioned in other books, they're just background characters. She's not even the creepiest character in it, if i remember correctly (it has been YEARS since I read it) the Ancestor shows up too.

munuaispapu
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Snufkin is based on a man that used to be Tove's lover. He was gone for long periods of time, just like Snufkin leaves every winter. If Tove imagined herself as Moomin, that means that Snufkin x Moomin ship is real.

rmvks
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One of the weirdest(in my opinion) Moomin facts that could have been included is;
In the comics Moomintroll somehow got seperated from his parents as a kid.
Later on, they met again when Mamma and Pappa were on a row boat and Pappa tough he saw a box or rum floating in the water.
The "box of rum" wasnt rum, but Moomintroll who was trying to drown himself.
Mamma and Pappa offered Moomin a mug of some warm drink, and Moomin regonized the mug as the mug he had as a kid. And they just kinda went on as the good old Moomin family we know after that???
Its so weird and i wouldent believe it if i didnt own the comic myself.

paroxynn
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well Im more than glad tove refused disney
can you imagine how they would today massacre moomins like they have done every other thing they have ever bought

KossolaxtheForesworn
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Fun fact: the first moomin sketch was drawn in Tove’s huussi (outdoor toilet) door when Tove was angry at someone.

nipantsuikkeli
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I'm Finnish and I live very near Naantali where the Moomin World is and have visited it many times as a child. It's a really fun place to visit and I felt like mentioning one thing about it not mentioned in the video. If you ever plan on coming to Finland and visiting Moomin World it's extremely important to know that it's only open in the summer (except for in some years it has been open for a week or two in winter but still it's really only open during summertime.) I also would like to elaborate on the mug collecting thing a little bit, every finnish person owns at least one of those mugs and the Fazer mug isn't actually the rarest one that excists. In 2019 there was a Fillyjonk mug with a printing error that had been auctioned for 6100€ in Huutokauppa Turenki and the wildest part is that the buyer had retuned the mug because of a small fracture but the seller believed it might actually work as a way to identify the real one from any possible fake ones and make the real one even more valuable. However the next week it was auctioned for "only" 2100€ and it's not even the only moomin mug with a printing error that has been sold for a ridiculous price.

Vipanen
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The groke is the personification of loneliness. "Eating people" is a reference to what loneliness does to people, eat your soul.

Aquelll
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My mum is a huge Moomin fan, our family all had moomin mugs each; she had moominmamma, my dad had moominpappa, my brothers had snufkin and moomin and I had little my. I grew up having the Who Will Comfort Toffle read to me and absolutely loved it, so comforting for an anxious child.

endymionredacted
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This was a great video! As a Finnish person myself, who has grown up reading Moomin stories and watching thr cartoons, i would just add one thing: Groke is female.

hannesammanpaa
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Like some have said, basically everyone owns a moomin mug in finland (it just is more than one), and it's not gonna be the only moomin thing they could have. You can buy moomin themed stuff starting from the kitchen to the bathroom and bedroom and to food. In every section of the store you can find one moomin item to buy. And it's as normal as the milk in the store so yeah, our need to have moomin themed everything is there~.

Jusuuw
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"Browsing Amazon at 3am from Moonin stuff that I don't need." Thats a bad habit we apparently have in common. This was a very charming video, great work.

raijin
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We used to go to mooninworld every summer when i was little. Snufkin was so cool, in this forest area (where his tent was) he used to tell bunch of stories and play his harmonica

ooneero
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I don't think it's fair to call Tove lesbian (I don't recall hearing her having labeled herself at all, but bisexual would seem more appropriate), considering she had at least three relationships with men, Atos Wirtanen being the most notable of her male partners. Their relationship was a serious one, she would have married him, but he was hesitating. Atos is the inspiration of Snufkin, a person who needs his privacy and alone-time and can't settle. Her next relationship was with Vivica and though it wasn't a long relationship, they remained friends. She spent the rest of her life with Tuulikki after meeting her in 1956.

Silveirias
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"Skurken i Muminhuset" is accurately word for word translated as
"The crook in the moomin house"
Whoever translated it as an unwanted guest is just wrong.

wilux
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ok so I'm one of those european kids who grew up watching the 90s moomins and as I've grown older, the moomins have always been there for me. I feel like it's safe to say that I know more about the franchise than the average person, because over time it has developed into a special interest of mine. and I just wanna say that it's an absolutely fantastic feeling to see stuff on this iceberg that I had never heard of!! it genuinely makes me so happy!! thank you!!

someonenamednothing
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love that moominvalley was basically tove's diary with extra steps

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