AMD's New CPUs are ''Worthless''

AMD announced their new Ryzen 9000 (Zen 5) CPUs... annnnd people don't seem too impressed. AMD has also overtaken Intel for desktop CPUs so are they becoming 'complacent' like Intel did??? There is a LOT to this story so let's unpack

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0:00- CPUs are more important than you think
2:08- AMD kinda crushin rn
2:55- ppl not excited
4:02- they don't 'look' good
8:09- 'Complacency'
9:20- Zen 5 is better than you think
11:38- Building a foundation
15:42- AMD is aggressive
17:38- is Ryzen 9000 worth it tho?

[allxtend]

Ryzen 9000 use 65 Watts with 16% more Performance IS Innovation, you know what Not inovating IS ? Intel CPUs that use more and more Watts then anything else

[jthedood]

people complaining about 10% increase but forgot that intel 14th gen is 2%

[Dragon_Slayer_Ornstein]

I don't understand, I thought these cpus are priced the same as the previous gen with a 16% more IPC and lower power consumption at the same time. How is that not a W?

[piellamp]

Amds improvement is in line with expectations idk what people are complaining about

[Meoknet]

I'm sorry, on what planet is 16% a bad generational IPC uplift? Zen 4 was 13% IPC with clock improvements. Zen 5 is 16% IPC with a completely re engineered core. You do know IPC, like clock speed, is not the only factor in a chip being faster right? The logic of the circuitry in your design plays a big part as well. We've seen AMD get massive perf uplift from unifying the L3 cache. So with a ground-up redesign of the core, you would be silly to pass judgement on the chip before seeing 3rd party testing of the silicon.

[DorianColeman]

New Ryzen generation is about 15 procent improvement. Thats the way it has always been with Ryzen.

[FatetalityXI]

if 16% is considered a minor upgrade gen over gen then I think we eating good.

[pascaldifolco]

AMD is victim of its own success with 3D chips, gamers with those have no reason to get a non 3D 9000 chip

[Riyozsu]

x3d is a double edge blade. It hurts amd as much as it hurts intel. Everyone is now waiting to see the 9800x3d and 9950x3d. You should do a poll between intel cpu, ryzen cpu, ryzenx3d cpu.

[deadeyemav]

WTF is going on? 16% IPC uplift is massive. I dont have the hard numbers in front of me but for arguments sake let's say 5GHz is worth 1 instruction per Hert that's 5000 instructions every cycle per core. 10 percent more instructions per cycle would be 5500 instructions per clock. let's also not forget that for every GHert we gain out of box there has been a tech wall to climb and a thermal barrier to break so 6GHz is the next hurdle how long where we stuck at 3Ghz then 4? people need to calm the farm and realise what is being demanded of people way smarter than any of us right?

[MrLandslide]

I'm convinced, AI is for stockholders.

[TheCompyshop]

Let’s not forget it took Intel 5 generations to get 16% IPC gains. I think we’re being a bit unfair complaining about 16% gains. Besides, we don’t have the x3D chip yet. We know that will be the one to get for gaming

[ottomaticallyawesome]

This is kinda cringe. 16%+ IPC and everything else sounds fine to me. It’s pretty reasonable, it’s not like they can just decide to make it two times as fast, they have to engineer and design it, and also make it economical. Sure, I would always ideally want more for less, but that ain’t really going to happen.

[VMinoda]

do people want 25% performance increase every year? that's not how it works unfortunately

[Anon-cvru]

The interesting thing about the 9000 series CPU is the 9700X and 9600X TDP, it is lower than the 7000 counterpart.

[jackali]

When I was building my PC, I didn't know much about CPUs, but some random dude told me to get 7800X3D in the comments, and I'm glad I took his advice.

[ChloeTurner-yu]

I just bought my son a PC. At first i was going to get him the 4090 with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, but due to the cable connector burning out and the fact their next offering the 4080 super only has 16Gb i decided on the Ryzen 7 7800X3D paired with a RX 7900 XTX simply for the fact you get 24GB of VRAM, due to their being less driver overhead it performs better under high CPU loads, it beats the 4080 Super just in rasterisation, and it will last him a lot longer than the 4080 Super or 4090. I know the Ray Tracing isn't as good as Nvidia and that is a fact, but it does to Ray Tracing and it doers it well and it's nothing to scoff at. Overall when i think about it logically the RX 7900 XTX is the better card based on value and stability. If AMD could only get the performance out of their GPU's to rival Nvidia's ray tracing, then AMD could take the market share

[Hexenkind]

They also didn't "take away" non x chips.
Those came out later last time.

[Davinmk]

How do they not look good? We can expect ~20% improvement from last gen, that’s the difference between a 7600 and 7800x3d. Ur just trying to make controversial content at this point lol

[jondonnelly]

I don't see the issue with 15% uplift in a year with less power draw to get there. When the power is unleashed which overclockers like myself will do it will slay. My system was designed to cool the ith PBO was over 300w. Yeah.... It's gonna slay.