Family Obligations: Crash Course Philosophy #43

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Today we are investigating our moral obligations to our parents and our families. Do we owe our parents anything as adults? Would it be a good idea to license parents? We’ll explore these questions as well as the ethics of care, and some potential problems that type of approach to morality carries with it.

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I love this video.
When I was growing up, my father and stepmother kept a tally of things we owed them. They constantly berated me and reminded me of how weird I was. My father was then shocked (I'm not sure if this was genuine or another one of their favourite gas lighting techniques) when, as an adult, I didn't just run for the hills, I sprinted.

maddyexplores
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"Children begin by loving their parents; after a time they judge them; rarely, if ever, do they forgive them." ~Oscar Wilde

PaperRaines
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"And what's more, your parents didn't provide for you with the expectation of a payout." - 2:51
They do. A lot of traditional (and I mean religious/cultural-wise) Asian parents do.

TheEndless
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I wouldn't want my kids to feel guilted into spending time with me, or doing something (like having my grandkids) for me.

Seems like a pretty shitty relationship if they only hang out with me out of guilt.

andyan
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Parents licenses would be awesome. Problem is, it would be difficult to stop people from having kids without a license. It would also need to include a psychological evaluation

.. as a person who was neglected badly as a child I have to really praise you and thank you for this episode. So many people tell me I should feel obligations toward my family, because they supplied me (if not with enough) with material goods. I have had so many people trying to make me feel guilty. It is nice to hear a different answer, which reflects so many points. Thank you for making such a helpful episode.

stefanieallworth
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The real question is what would we put on the those tests? What would be considered morally right for children?

emmagyoung
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The actual quote about blood being thicker than water is misinterpreted. The original saying was blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. So, bonds made in battle are worth more than simply genetics.

kalebg.
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Did John actually try to dry his socks in a frying pan?

maddieyay
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Monday's are awesome only because of CC Philosophy

Carlos-fbbv
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"isn't blood thicker than water?"
Technically, yes.
But the axiom, "blood thicker than water", means the opposite of how everybody uses it.
The original saying is: "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb"
Basically; the people you choose to have in your life are more important than familial obligations.

calska
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I would be for the parental licensing idea, if not for the fact that it can easily turn into a eugenics program

TokyoTraveller
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I like the idea of parent licenses to an extent, though I feel like many would consider that to be too intrusive of the government. At that point, for example, you could weed out people with certain views who would raise their kids to have their own perspectives, almost selectively breeding schools of thought. If parent licenses were to be a thing, we would have to make it as transparent and decentralized a process as possible.

illdie
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Lol, who else wouldn't have been born if they had an enforced parenting license law? XD

Nat-ghqk
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My mum is going to kick me out of my house in one year, this really helped me get some perspective... thanks

thevansoh
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Say hello at 6:34 to the stock footage of an old couple drinking wine xD

Zerepzerreitug
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That friendship model fits my mom and I perfectly. This was a brilliant episode. Jesus, the philosophy one is POWERFUL. Sad I'm coming to the end.

jimmygravitt
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Parent License Exam: Q1. What do babies drink? A) Whiskey B) Milk C) Baby Formula D) B or C E) All of the above.

AvailableUsernameTed
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I'm Asian. My parents think I owe them everything including money, time, attention, and even making important life choices. Lol. Good thing I left them and never looked back.

soonny
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So how exactly would you prevent people from having kids before they got their license

brycxio
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I have two issues with the idea of "parenting licenses":
1) Being a "good parent" *sounds* like something we ought to be able to agree on, but I can see it getting tricky. People already disagree regularly about corporal punishment and religious education (just to name two topics off the top of my head) and anyone who is a parent currently (me, for example) can tell you that pretty much any decision you make for your kids will net you criticism from somewhere. *Tl;dr "good parenting" is not an uncontroversial topic, so who gets to decide what it is?*

2) The reason gun, hunting, fishing, and driving licenses all work is that those are activities you have to consciously opt into. You can become a parent (or at least a prospective parent) entirely by accident (in fringe cases you don't even need to have sex with anyone). How does our prospective license handle people who became prospective parents by accident or against their will, and who fail the test?

HughDingwall