Papal Supremacy: How the Popes Came to Rule the Church

Pope Francis, the Bishop of Rome, is today the unchallenged, supreme head of the Catholic Church, which includes about 1.3 billion baptized adherents, which is about half of the world’s Christians. But while Francis and his predecessors claim an unbroken line extending all the way back to St. Peter, Jesus’ leading apostle, the bishops of Rome have not always enjoyed unchallenged control of Christendom.

John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place explores the development of the institution of the Papacy, how the bishops of Rome extended their authority over their fellow bishops through ideology and political savvy, and how the Papacy ultimately defeated alternatives heads of the church: Emperors, ecumenical councils, and ultimately the political leaders of modern nation states.

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[fastballflakes]

Another fantastic Hamercopia of knowledge this evening. Always a privilege to be able to experience the wisdom imparted through this medium. I give tonight 5 bags of popcorn, 2 sodas and one of those giant keys in the painting. See you next week for the Book of Daniel lecture. Until then, be excellent to each other Hamerheads!

[PraiseDog]

These lectures are very educational, up with the best I have found. Looking forward to listening to this one, thanks.

[marymagnuson]

As always I will have to watch this more than once. John always has so much knowledge.

[garymensurati]

Thank you John and Centre Place. Excellent presentation and analysis, as always. Blessings 🙏 to all

[Laurel-gd]

Thank you for this in-depth and expansive exploration! I have never enjoyed learning so much!

[NoGods-NoProphets]

THIS is the truth 🙏

If God were one of us, in drunken cheer,
He’d laugh, raise his cup, and draw us near:
“All who swear they’ve seen my face
Are liars draped in pious grace.
No words I spoke, no signs were shown,
Yet still they preach what none have known.

No hand shaped man from dust or clay,
No fates I cast, there’s no price to pay.
The stars don’t dance at my command,
Nor do I rule the sea or land.”

Then, He whispered, as if to weep:…….

“I am no maker, I am not real—
No throne, no book, no grand ideal.
The tales you tell are but a game,
So drink, my friends, and forget my name.

No devil waits where dead men lie,
No fiend below, no god on high.
Man’s fears are but the dust he throws,
To veil the truth he dare not know.

No angels guard the weary soul,
No wings descend to make it whole.
Your prayers rise up, then drift away,
To silent voids where none obey.


Trust not the scriptures preachers keep,
But wake—and love—before you sleep.
For in their books, no truth is sown,
The soul alone must claim its own.

The words they chant, the lies they weave,
Are shadows that the fools believe.
So drink, my friend, and let it be,
For none have known what none can see.”

🙏 Haec est veritas.

[God_gave_His_Son_for_you]

Peter's confession is the rock (not Peter).

[juliebyzewski]

Thank you for explaining the Babylon reference: I never understood it.

[notrueflagshere]

If the authority of the scriptures does not require the scriptures to be literally true, then the authority of the popes does not require the Peter claim to be literally true either.

[chuckschillingvideos]

The CC's apologetics for Peter are beyond hilarious. Their tortured "reasoning" is so far beyond the pale of what reason and logic that it's incredibly difficult for a sane person to consider it "reasoning".

[twitchentropy]

AND, MGM's Cecil B. DeMille isn't around to tell us how they decided to stage that Coliseum-scene of St Pete, hanging feet up on that cross

[georgeince]

I enjoy much of your teaching even if I don't always agree with it. I find you to be quite scholarly. Can you please clarify something for me? Why are Unitarian based churches
Included as Christian. Since Christian is derived from the idea that Jesus is the Christ. Is that not Trinitarian?.

[twitchentropy]

Peter Peter, Papal-Papers, Will Travel...

[SuperHorseSense]

A few questions for people, if anyone bothers to answer:
1. If you're a Protestant who takes the Bible literally, how do you justify not listening to the Pope when you read the passage about Jesus making Peter the rock of his church?
2. If you're a Catholic who believes Peter was the first Pope, how do you come to terms with the fact there is no historical evidence for him ever being in Rome, and that he was actually the Bishop of Antioch?

Yes I realize these questions kinda contradict each other, but my main point is: don't they kinda contradict themselves?

[rickmcentee]

On behalf of our Ethiopian, Maronite, Armenian, Coptic, Greek Orthodox and other Catholic branches, it would be more accurate to specify Roman Catholic when talking about the Pope.

[hamnchee]

My favorite Pope was Pope Hilarius. He really put the ha in eucharist.

[ansfridaeyowulfsdottir]

"Pope" is not an official title of the Bishop of Rome, it's a colloquial "style".

His actual title is _"His Holiness, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God"_

The actual Pope is the head of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, and his official title is _“Pope and Patriarch of the great city of Alexandria and of all Egypt, the Pentapolis and Pelousia, Nubia, the Sudan, Jerusalem, Libya, Ethiopia and all Africa, and the Holy See of Saint Mark the Apostle."_

So, no, the Catholic they call the Pope is not actually the Pope, and the Pope is not a Catholic!

{:o:O:}

[Unknown-yv]

Mendicant means Brahmin. Aristotle said the Jews are the descendants of the Brahmins

[natemead]

This is a lecture full of lies. I hope u get sued