Does the Quran Prophesy the End of Israel? | Dr. Shabir Ally

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[therealsheikh]

God doesn't prophesize. God decrees, informs, he's the originator, creator of the information.

[shatalcrozier]

ISRAEL WAS CHOSEN WITH CONDITIONS AND HAD BROKEN ALL OF THEM.

[eros]

There’s also in the same Surah in verse 8 a clear warning AFTER the two prophesied destructions, and it goes as follow :

عَسَىٰ رَبُّكُمْ أَن يَرْحَمَكُمْ ۚ وَإِنْ عُدتُّمْ عُدْنَا ۘ وَجَعَلْنَا جَهَنَّمَ لِلْكَـٰفِرِينَ حَصِيرًا ٨ ( Perhaps your Lord will have mercy on you, but if you return, We will return.And We have made Hell a ˹permanent˺ confinement for the disbelievers.”

[Faith-truth]

I’m no scholar but I believe verse 8 answers the question somewhat:
“It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you but if you repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment)”
This is the way of God. If you return to the same prohibited conduct you face the same consequences. The question is has Israel returned to the same conduct of ‘corruption’ and ‘arrogance’ on the land?

[fkoff]

Jeremiah 33:7-34:17
I will restore the fortunes of Judah and the fortunes of Israel, and rebuild them as they were at first. I will cleanse them from all the guilt of their sin against me, and I will forgive all the guilt of their sin and rebellion against me. And this city shall be to me a name of joy, a praise and a glory before all the nations of the earth who shall hear of all the good that I do for them. They shall fear and tremble because of all the good and all the prosperity I provide for it. “Thus says the Lord: In this place of which you say, ‘It is a waste without man or beast, ’ in the cities of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem that are desolate, without man or inhabitant or beast, there shall be heard again the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, the voices of those who sing, as they bring thank offerings to the house of the Lord: “‘Give thanks to the Lord of hosts, for the Lord is good, for his steadfast love endures forever!’ For I will restore the fortunes of the land as at first, says the Lord. ...

[ladymorshoff]

Whatever it is, its human beings explanation . Our feeble minds cannot truly fathom Allah's plans snd actions . But we know His plans are the best and divinely fair for dunia and akhirat . Alhamdulillah Allahu Akbar

[DavidArulnathan]

Genesis 12:3
Good News Translation
3 I will bless those who bless you,
But I will curse those who curse you.
And through you I will bless all the nations.”[a]

[notyourbus]

But he God also end the verse
وإن عدتم عدنا..
Like everytime you are back will be back to you too.

[mohabdul]

Your explanation makes sense but if they were already punished twice for their misbehavior then it's 100% certain that they will be punished again for the current misbehavior which is even worse compared to the past ones.

[markdoughty]

Always educational and always engaging - thanks for uploading.

[noyaljoy-dnlf]

Genesis 12:3, “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you;

[alwaystamazight]

In the ayat there is explicitly a difference between the two promises. Allah has explicitly stated that the first promise has been completed, which means that it is something that happened in the past. When it comes to the second, it is indicated what will happen to them, which will actually take place in the future. Nowhere in the aya is indicated that it is a promise that has been completed.

In the ayat, Allah warns Bani Israel what the consequences are for their behavior: if you do good, you do it for yourself and if you do bad, you do it for yourself. From the Quranic perspective it is something that will take place in the future.

[ShahbazMaqboolBaba]

A complete lecture about this verse is done by Dr Israar Ahmad RA in urdu in 2004 by name ' Ummati Muslima Ka Maazi Haal Aur Mustaqbil' . I request everyone to see to it. Dr Israar has related how we are related to it now. It is a lecture of 2+ hours.

[zakariakamal]

Incomplete explanation: Explain up to verse 017.008 "It may be that your Lord may show Mercy unto you (you may come back); but if ye revert, We shall revert: And we have made Hell a prison for those who reject.

[qurantranslations]

وَقُلْنَا مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦ لِبَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ ٱسْكُنُوا۟ ٱلْأَرْضَ فَإِذَا جَآءَ وَعْدُ ٱلْـَٔاخِرَةِ جِئْنَا بِكُمْ لَفِيفًۭا ١٠٤

[ObiverWere]

If all Muslim and christian would think like this guy then the world be a better place to live

[colindiplock]

As a Christian, I enjoyed Dr Sabir' thoughts and yes the two cities and their inhabitants mentioned are the first relating to genocide. And Prophazing is telling those who choose to listen, what will take place in the future and only GOD knows that. @therealsheikh Yes?

[eduardomanalili]

Amos 9:15. And I will have them planted in their land, and never again will they be uprooted from their land which I have given them, says the Lord your God

[GODOURSALVATION.]

In Isaiah 11:11, God promised to stretch out his hand to regather Israel from the four corners of the earth “a second time” (the first time being from the lands of the Babylonian exile).
We know from Hosea 3:4-5 that it would occur in the last days, and Amos 9:15 tells us that they will never be uprooted again.

[bennabiermoci]

As a child of Yahweh and a follower of Yeshua I am pleased to see the gentleness of these commentors. The message is cloudy but the peace is clear. Let all men everywhere see through the logos to the pure oil of God and His Love for those who love peace not demanded by tyranny but built up in humility and sensitivity to His Ruach Ha'qodesh.