The Deutsch Files III

Proving something about AGI is inherently impossible 0:00

Creativity is not just mixing things together 3:05

The superiority of explanatory knowledge 7:48

Knowledge laden information is more resilient than any physical object 12:36

The problems of cloning people 15:05

Objections to Taking Children Seriously 19:23

“Do what you like” is bad advice 38:17

Creativity versus nature 41:57

Deutsch’s “fanciful” conjectures 47:52

We must give up on the idea of an ultimate explanation 53:06

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[BurningPandama]

The section about taking children seriously is glorious (19:24), Good work Mr. Deutsch

I get more impressed by this man every time I hear him.

[no_scope]

Stumbled upon Deutsch's book, just like how I stumbled into naval information. I am 21, but we'll see how much advice I can get and how well it works. So far since 18, it has been beneficial in 3 domains: knowledge, financial, and inner peace wise.

[FoodForestBrad]

I really hope this is an ongoing series!

[El_Diablo_]

36:30 the relationship between freedom and progress
37:38 kids if free will do what they think is best for them. That will be error prone, but so that’s also true for adults.

[shonufftheshogun]

I wish Deutch had a few kids. I would be curious if it changed his perspective on Taking Children Seriously.

[Gullinnova]

So many amazing new concepts and ideas in this series. i really enjoyed all of it.

[JohnChampagne]

It should be possible for an advanced civilization to create more than one environment that is conducive to the healthy intellectual development of the child. Imagine a school system that provided a menu of experiences and activities that students could choose from. They could plan their week and month according to how much it costs to provide a library or lecture and discussion or music class or sculpture class or field trip. Some students might want to do a little bit of many different things. Others might prefer to engage mostly in quiet study, to save up a budget that enables them to afford an occasional spectacular field trip. If we share natural wealth equally, the money that can rightly be claimed by children could be used to fund such things.

[codegallant]

💯✨ tbh i wasn't waiting for this as i wasn't expecting an another one of david deutsch episode. But i'm truly glad 🌟

[El_Diablo_]

14:50 interesting
15:50 billions of people
16:20 AI owning its own computer
26:30 give kid education. Help them create knowledge themselves
56:20 environmentalists and religions both seem to confuse ‘the world’ with our 1 planet

[srghma]

Naval: is this an argument for spreading your ideas rather than having children

David Deutsch: well as David fredman says if the world is worth saving it's worth saving at a profit . and I would generalize it. if the world is worth saving it's worth saving with fun

[Lance_Lough]

Think DD's take on science/physics is brilliant...things like art and social matters not so much.

[Aedonius]

People need to stop thinking about AGI in terms of today's computers. 30 years from now, the memory and processing power will be close to infinite - that's the point of the singularity. There is so much compute that compute is no longer a problem. Foom can't happen now. Foom can happen when we have 3D processors using alien architectures designed by AI years from now

[gabrielzinho_]

He didn't say that "doing what you like” is bad advice (38:17).

[Diagnomic_Health]

Sir, if you were a medical student into machine learning and using AI to create an impact in healthcare and disrupt the industry, how would you go about it?

What path would you suggest a newbie medical student who is really into developing Brain Computer Interface tech and technology like Nexus (Ramez Naam)? Should he look into pursuing engineering/something like that at MIT/Harvard ?

[bla-ddzgcrb]

was this recorded asynchronously on airchat?

[softacroaaron]

P-lease keep these coming.
Am super curious about David’s work on his book ‘Irrationality’.

Of course David doesn’t want to be pinned down on giving objective advice, which of course would be almost worthless as it lacks application.

But I’d love to hear about you, David and Brett go about solving actual problems in the present-day.

How are you solving the ‘addictive screen time and fast food’ problem of raising kids, Naval?

How are you going about clarifying the problem that AirChat is meant to solve?

What is your process of improving the app, when there is no guarantee of its success or need - or is that already a proven case for you?

How is David tackling problems in constructor theory?

What are current problems he is actively working on? What does his process look like?

What are the problems Brett wants to solve after having explained both of David’s book, the work of Chiara and Popper?

How does Brett go about monetising his knowledge?

He obviously has a deep understanding of physics and epistemology, what is his approach towards wealth?
(I am still wondering about that part in my life - how will I make my wealth - while faithfully studying movement efficiency and motor skill learning as these are my main areas of interest, next to understanding fundamental knowledge.)


Of course not all of these question might be appropriate, but getting to hear more about how the 3 of you go about solving actual problems in your life would be so insightful.

[pumpperoni]

Men are inspired- not by what happened, but by their opinion on what happened

[fffxy]

You need to give him A LOT more pushback. Most questions he's asked he just misrepresents to the level of his ignorance and builds his arguments against a malformed strawman of the question without any correction or intervention from anyone. Especially with twin studies, but also theories of mind, neuroscience, education, and creativity (which you talk about without defining it first, despite also talking about how difficult it is to have shared definition).
Listening to this was – while occasionally thought provoking – largely a waste of time. It's people talking about things outside their field of expertise, seemingly without realising it. Baseless speculations about things that are, largely, already fairly well established facts in their respective fields.
I did stop listening 45 minutes in so there's a chance they say "April Fools" at the end, in which case I'm the one with egg on my face.

[sandeep_ramawat]

Hindi m pravachan denge to audiance jyada aavegi