Could the EMPIRE or REPUBLIC Have Beaten the YUUZHAN VONG? | Star Wars Lore

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Could the Empire or Republic have beaten the Yuuzhan Vong?

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Old Republic and New Republic on the Outer Rim: "Meh, too far from the bright center of the galaxy."
The Empire on the Outer Rim: "Hey! Those are MY worlds to strip mine!"

giladpellaeon
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Palpatine if the vong invade during the imperial period “This Galaxy is not yours to conquer”

robland
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The CIS also has the psychological warfare aspect that'd piss off the Vong, an unleashed, unhampered CIS would be nearly unstoppable.

KaiserMattTygore
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I always wondered how the Yuuzahn Vong would have reacted to a Clone army or the idea of Cloning in comparison to their shaping process. They'd probably see it as an abomination due to the technology used, but still I wonder if they would have tried to adapt their own cloning process.

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Yup, good video. Some points I think that were missed:
1) As you pointed out in your last video on the Yuuzhan Vong war, the fact that a lot of leaders of the Rebellion were retiring was a bog deal. Had it happened during the Clone Wars, or during the Empire, they would have had experienced officers ready to go.
2) The Jedi in the pre-Imperial era were far more numerous than in Luke's New Jedi Order. The presence of Jedi really tips the scales, hence Nom Anor's attempts to hurt the Jedi's PR.
3) The Empire knew about and were preparing for the Vong. They would have moved to annihilate them at their first sighting, regardless if they were trying to conquer the Vong.
4) The Empire has Grand Admiral Thrawn (along with his "Empire of the Hand"), who had it as a personal mission to stop the "Far Outsiders."

AzureKnight
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The reality of the situation is that despite its bets efforts New Republic was the least stable goverment and so soon after the conclusion of war with the Empire they were in the worst situation possible.
On top of this we know that CIS and the Republic were held back by Palpatine durring the clone war and if the vongs were to attack they would be met with numbers that no one can overcome.

troo_
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In one of the NJO novels, Traitor by Matthew Stover, the Vong even acknowledge that the Empire would have defeated them. Pretty interesting to think about.

thespartanfox
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Quality vs quantity I suppose. A Venator class for instance is nothing compared to, say, a Nebula class made decades later. But when you're facing ten Venators at once you're not going to be thinking about that.

RJALEXANDER
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Id think the Empire would win, the DS1/2 would be really good against the world ships and the sheer amount of Star Destroyers would overwhelm the Vong

Finn_
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I believe the CIS would fare exceptionally well against the Yuzhan Vong.

UncleMikeDrop
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I think there’s a lot of potential for alt-history stories set in the aftermath of a Vong invasion during the Empire’s reign, and that comes down to one simple factor: PR.

The Empire striking back and protecting the Outer Rim from the Vong as soon as possible, ignoring the huffs of ignorance from the Core Worlds, would have made a huge difference in how it was perceived in the Outer Rim, and depending on how nasty things get it may even effect the Core and other regions. This in turn could have the effect of the Rebellioj being disliked/more unpopular than it was in the normal timeline if it still attacks the Empire during the Vong invasion, being seen less as noble freedom fighters and more like petulant extremists who are putting the galaxy at risk. It’d be interesting to read this sort of thing I must admit.

ThatOneMan
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If it were to happen during the Clone Wars, you would also have the advantage of the Jedi being around since even then they were bigger then Luke’s Jedi Order. And even in the Empire you had things like the Inquisitors.

rogue_asami
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This question was settled in the NJO books themselves. From Destiny's Way:

“I can't help but wonder how the old Empire would have handled the crisis, " Dorja continued. "I hope you will forgive my partisan attitude, but it seems to me that the Emperor would have mobilized his entire armament at the first threat, and dealt with the Yuuzhan Vong in an efficient and expeditious manner, through the use of overwhelming force. Certainly better than Borsk Fey’lya’s policy—if I understood it correctly as a policy—of negotiating with the invaders at the same time as he was fighting them, sending signals of weakness to a ruthless enemy who used negotiation only as a cover for further conquests.”

It was growing very hard, Leia thought, to maintain the diplomatic smile on her face. “The Emperor, ” she said, “was always alert to any threat to his power.”

Leia sensed Han about to speak, and this time was too late to stop his words.

*b “That’s not what the Empire would have done, Commander, ” Han said. “What the Empire would have done was build a supercolossal Yuuzhan Vong–killing battle machine. They would have called it the Nova Colossus or the Galaxy Destructor or the Nostril of Palpatine or something equally grandiose. They would have spent billions of credits, employed thousands of contractors and subcontractors, and equipped it with the latest in death-dealing technology. And you know what would have happened? **_It wouldn’t have worked_** . They’d forget to bolt down a metal plate over an access hatch leading to the main reactors, or some other mistake, and a hotshot enemy pilot would drop a bomb down there and **_blow the whole thing up_** . Now **_that’s_** what the Empire would have done.” b*

Leia, striving to contain her laughter, detected what might have been amusement in Vana Dorja’s brown eyes.

“Perhaps you’re right, ” Dorja conceded.

davidalan
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I get the feeling you really like Eckharts Ladder and you somewhat modeled or at least took some inspiration from his channel, not saying anything negative about it, I enjoy it really, even your voice has a similar sound and tone to it as Eck’s. Also, nice video, I hope to see this channel grow soon

acrazysheepdog
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If The Republic is fighting the CIS I can see Palpy ignoring Rumors of far northern systems going dark... I mean He ignored Maul until he took over Mandalore so unless the Yuuzhan basically play super aggressive to play super aggressive. They could easily just sit out of the war or work into the unknown regions and set up a beachhead there. and if they spread into the unknown regions.... and then come back.

Remember alot of the War was The Yuuzhan had been discovered so they went fuck it and attacked the NR cause they were on to them

Despite alot of their Tech dying or being old, That Tech still kicks ass, I mean everybody goes on about the Dosal Basil and act like thats the only thing you gotta worry about. Not that Vong plasma weapons set the ship on fire once the shields go down. IE a SD can be brought down by a swarm of Coralskippers strafing its surface causing enough fire storms for the ship to go up in a blaze. I mean if the Yuuzhan weren't stuck in a creative sterility ... Vong warriors armed with mini plasma weapons would have turned the tide of ground battles significantly


another aspect we don't know is just HOW many of the Vong are out there... like While the Battle of Coruscant the Vong command discuss losing a lot of their forces and being stretched thin, Its clear they are referring to standing forces in the galaxy since Shimerra is convinced they just have to buckle down and wait for their troops to replenish and hopefully the rift will be big enough for their "Bigger toys" which we thankfully'?' never get to see. I guess Its good for the good guys.

and note despite being "Stretched thin" the Yuuzhan still have the numbers for two of the biggest battles in Galactic history and they had heresy going on spiliting thier unity

rwg
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Your content is criminally underrated. Well done.

chaiwarrior
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"Sernpindal is far too distant. We will wait for these - supposed - invaders to threaten another target. A military target. A loyal system."
- Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin

lynngreen
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I really like the ambient music in this video. Love your stuff Corey!

evankoerber
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Literally just finished watching the previous video. Neat

Nihoolious
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I think a few dozen droidekas would decimate platoons of Vong warriors. Imagine the damage they could do if they were to infiltrate one of the Vong capital or world ships. Especially if you added commando Droids.

stevenbaumann