Wow, they really did it. Bedrock servers, modding is dead.

With the latest Bedrock update, the PDB file has been officially removed. Where do we actually go from here?

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[_JunkbotPriest]

I like how mojang continues to find ways for everyone to hate bedrock edition

[龱]

Mojang: no fireflies
Community: mods the firefly
Mojang: no mods

[fuzzy-]

I bet you they will offer server hosting next
"Play with 5 of your friends for $0.99 a month! Upgrade to premium and get mods too!"

[光八神-nv]

Mojang: We want Bedrock to be the primarily played edition of Minecraft.
Also Mojang:

[davidci]

And with one action, Mojang collectively ignored 14 thousand voices trying to tell them not to do this

[krisfog]

Mojang: There are 3 rules.
1. No using third party tools on multiplayer servers.
2. Follow strict minecraft username TOS and keep good behaivor
3. NO FIREFLIES

The community: Lets mod fireflies!

Mojang: THERE ARE FOUR RULES.

[zgalexy]

Mojang wonders why Java players are horrified that they will be shut down in favor of bedrock. This is why. To a java player, the bedrock edition is a horror story. Massive bugs, missing features, mediocre mods that cost money, etc. It's like Minecraft if it was created today by a greedy corporation. No one wants this. Minecraft is one of the biggest games in history and will likely always make money. No need to make it pay to -win- have community content, and destroy the game.

Edit: I'm not saying the version will be shut down, just that the backlash is completely understandable. Microsoft should expect heavy backlash when they try to replace FREE community content with greedy microtransactions in one of the most played games ever.

[captive]

They knew Java players hated Bedrock, now they want Bedrock players to hate Bedrock

[willwunsche]

How to boil a frog is slowly. You slowly turn up the heat so they don't notice and jump away. Slowly gaining more and more control to reach where you want to be

[grubzer]

On what pdb files are:
Exe files are just machine code, binary data. Finding out what thing some part of the code is responsible for to modify it requires going through it by hand, and reading it instruction-by-instruction

PDB files put human-readable labels on different functions in the code, so you can immediately know where to look for, for example, the game generates the world so you could add your own biome by injecting your code

[Napinger]

Modding is dead..
Bans are fuel...
Servers are full...

[marlondiriche]

I warn you all. Mojang will try to make the Java Edition (the original and only Minecraft) look obsolete to force players into Bedrock, they will delay updates or not even release it, they will remove features, they will lie about it, they will ignore fans requests. A lot of big devs did the same thing with their games, they can't keep getting away with it

[TheFunlandTeam]

From a Bedrock player:

You say you want parity between the two versions, Mojang? Well, you've taken a step in the wrong direction.

[Bendytube]

Well, now we're seeing what would've happened if modding started today. Modern Mojang (probably Microsoft) would've nipped it in the bud and sold what was once free. The only reason they don't do this shit to Java edition is not just because it'd be pretty difficult, actually. Not only that but also because Java actually has a modding scene big enough to actually cause a problem if they started cracking down.

[Micha-Hil]

From a Java player:
Bedrock players, we're here for you. Don't worry. We won't make fun of you.

[hb]

Minecraft players need to start a boycott against Mojang, don’t play the game, don’t buy mine coins, leave negative reviews everywhere, get a hashtag trending, make them force their hand into not making shit choices for the game

If Helldivers and tf2 where able to get their voices heard and get something done, so can Minecraft

[Kyrikrliy]

I find it very funny how they want people to play bedrock and for it to be the main version people play on, but at the same time do everything in their power to make it worse. I feel sorry for the people who don't have a PC and as such can only play bedrock, or the people who can't afford Java.

[AGamer.]

Mojang executives not realising that the modding community is what's keeping the game alive

[DemonixTB]

Since it wasn't explained in much detail, pdb files are the program database, files that debugger programs rely on them to let a developer well, debug the code, step through it line by line in a human readable language like C++, which is what bedrock is written in, without it, the modding community will not be able to see any of the program symbols, leaving the wholy obtuse machine code in its place meaning the binary would have to be reverse engineered for every single version of the game going forwards if anyone wants to make any mod, a nearly impossible task for a game as big and as frequently updated as minecraft, if modding is to remain a thing at all, it will likely only happen for major versions reversed by the community every few years.
EDIT:
Apperently native bedrock launcher doesn't even let you stay on an old version? So you would have to use external launchers, the creation and maintaining of which will also get harder because of this? Bedrock modding is so dead. I feel so bad.

[Tunhal]

It's crazy how they decided to ignore the Bedrock mobile players and just do this update. Some people can't afford a computer for the Java edition... 💀