debunking prophets — part two [cc]

A reflection on the individuals who design religions — and the holes in their stories.
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opening quote:
The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what’s true.
―Carl Sagan
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subtitles
Arabic: TranquilOblivion
Bulgarian: Djeitko
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Carl Sagan quote:
Carl Sagan
Sagan, C. (1995) Wonder and Skepticism. Skeptical Inquirer 19 (1)
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Paine, T. (1794-1807) The Age of Reason
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Walker, A. (1982) The Color Purple. Harcourt Brace Jovanovich.
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'women in Islam' quote:
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al-Bukhari Hadith:
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The Masked Arab channel:
The Masked Arab Ibn Kathir reference from this video:
The tafsir in question:
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David Icke material from 'Secrets of the Matrix' seminar - available on DVD
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music © TheraminTrees
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[TheraminTrees]

Some folk've noticed that at louder volumes, a high-pitched tone can be heard over my voice. I erased several frequencies from what started out as a multi-frequency noise, but missed this one. I will be replacing my mic. In the meantime, if you listen at lower volumes, the sound shouldn't impinge.

[AlbertGuilmont]

"My religion is not bad. My religion is good. Other religions are misleading people"
...so say they all.

[craigdavidson]

So happy my parents gave me a library card instead of a religious book.

[Aldo_raines]

It takes some gumption to criticize Islam with a depiction of Mohammed on screen the whole time. I tip my hat to you, sir.

[RespectTheHood]

The fact that I am so not used to seeing a depiction of Muhammad, that even an extremely vague depiction made me a bit uncomfortable speaks volumes to the enforcing of guilt upon others as some sort of forced contract that is unnecessary and idiotic

[ZangelDemon]

"Suppression doesn't solve problems. It creates them." Absolutely agree. Well done on another quality video, TheraminTrees!

[leritykay]

As I like to put it.
"No, you don't believe tht Mary was a virigin. You believe a pastor, who believed the translation of the bible, the translator believed the disciples who wrote down the bible, those disciples believed the townsfolk, who claimed that Mary was a virgin"

[julianparsons]

8:59 ...then couldn't our _ALL-KNOWING CREATOR_ explain it perfectly in the first try to us, so stupid or not, WE DO understand? (he knitted us together in our mother's womb and knows the number of hairs on our heads, etc...) I mean, heck... he already commands us to do A LOT of things we don't understand and never will understand. Wearing blended fabric is a sin punishable by eternal damnation? Gosh. I wish I knew the "hidden context" of that one! Why not just command us to treat women and girls like humans? Why not tell us owning slaves is wrong? ...and rape is wrong.... pedophilia is wrong. But no. The all-knowing creator in his infinite wisdom gives us vague, second-hand instructions poorly filtered through obviously corrupt prophets

[johnmulder]

Dude you have balls showing an image to represent Muhammad. I respect that. Not many would have the courage to do that

[Ergeniz]

I can't help but think the 8 fingered hand example is analogous to circumcision.

[coweatsman]

8 fingers are more "hygienic" just as circumcision of baby boys is more
"hygienic". We see how ridiculous this is applied to girl babies but
society is still blind to the barbarism of circumcising baby boys,
celebrates and even subsidises it. Even doctors come up with quacker
roney excuses.

[cpsaleemyt]

Being a Prophet is a "risky" profession. Getting riskier by the day. Maybe that's why we see less of them nowadays. The "old" prophets like Mohammed still influences us because they were not challenged effectively in their time.

[DrownedInExile]

Thanks for this!
"This shit is too complex for mere mortals to understand!"
"Aren't you a mere mortal too? Why should anyone believe you then?"
(sputters)

[PommeDeTerre]

I love The Color Purple. I had to study it for A-level English literature, I would never have read it otherwise because i was a victim of abuse and while it was difficult to work though I ultimately really benefited from reading it. It was a cathartic experience that allowed me to see myself as more than just a victim of abuse and helped me heal some of my old wounds. So yeah, got a little excited whenever it was mentioned.

[heltrom]

as a muslim, i absolutely love this video, i've always thought about these things but never had the bravery to even talk about what im thinking, kinda sad

[rileymaclennan]

All the prophets in the world with all of their godly knowledge of the past (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad) just forgot to mention that there was 4 more continents.

[LadyDoomsinger]

If there was a "perfect divine plan", it would obviously have been designed in such a way that everyone could understand it, regardless of intelligence or faith. Otherwise it wouldn't be "perfect".

[astralclub]

Kudos for having the courage to depict Muhammed in cartoon form!

[DataDrid]

I watched this video when it was new, and it was one of the things that helped cement in my mind that I no longer believed. Now that I'm "out" as an atheist, I just wanted to thank you for what you do. Recognizing that miracles have no connection to message is one of the best insights that helped me shed religion for good.

[sahussaini]

Bless you brother! More people need to listen and follow you. I am a Muslim who lost faith when I started reading philosophy and realised there were so many intelligent people who never claimed to be prophets, like Seneca, Socrates, Aristotle, Marcus Aurelius, Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, et-cetra. There were no miracles but plain common sense and curiosity to understand life. I agree to everything you said. It makes me sick to know that everything I stood by all my life was a lie!