Are miracles scientifically provable? | John Lennox at SMU

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[RandomChristianMusings]

Praying that The Lord continues to bless richly all the bros. and sisters at *The Veritas Forum.* Shalom 💜💗💜

[hannannahuk]

Read what Christ says about himself in the Gospels. Read what the demons say about him. Read what the panicking religious leaders said about him and to him. Read what Martha said about him regarding her brother, Lazarus. Read what he said to Pilate. If that isn't God in the flesh, what is? ✝️

[sierragrey]

The laws of nature are for us, not for their Creator.

[rezamohamadakhavan_abdolla]

This gentleman needs to pay attention to the speaker.

[praytojesuschristhelistens]

I cant even imagine the math and calculations that went behind GOD'S Miracles so they can take place. Forever glory to GOD THE FATHER, JESUS CHRIST and the Hard Worker that is The HOLY SPIRIT forever and ever and ever!!!

[yolandavelez]

I believe in the crucifixion, and in the resurrection.

[robertseavor]

The God who created the laws of nature is surely capable of suspending them.

[peskyfervid]

Are miracles scientifically provable? No. By the way, what ever happened to miracles? Lennox is just a word spinner. In his world, sophistication replaces reality.

[onsenguy]

ancient people thought comets were miracles, that a sick person recovering was a miracle, that rainbows and eclipses were miracles, and so on..

[ermasale]

What greater miracle is one who engineered the
Initial basic process for thinking

[markballantyne]

Miracles of the bible are actually miraculous, big difference, a mystery to humankind but not in the reality of god.

[santadeville]

...and a question for prof. Lennox:

If Jesus flesh and bones have passed through his clothes and then left in the tomb, and 2 days after through the wall of that house where he had meet his disciples, why then the wheel-shaped stone has been removed from the entrance if the tomb?

[Aaronservant]

Joshua 10:12-14

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On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "O sun, stand still over Gibeon, O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon."
13
So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on [2] its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.
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There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the LORD listened to a man. Surely the LORD was fighting for Israel!

[helpmaboabb]

Not one of Lennox's finer moments, I have to say.

[macktheripper]

Received a miracle myself.. they are real

[santadeville]

Why apologetics keep trying to reconcile religion and science?

C. Sagan " The Demons-Haunted World":

"This is one of the reasons that the organized religions do not inspire me with confidence.
Which leaders of the major faiths acknowledges that their beliefs might be incomplete or
erroneous and establish institutes to uncover possible doctrinal deficiencies? Beyond the test of
everyday living, who is systematically testing the circumstances in which traditional religious
teachings may no longer apply? (It is certainly conceivable that doctrines and ethics that may
have worked fairly well in patriarchal or patristic or medieval times might be thoroughly invalid in
the very different world we inhabit today.) What sermons even-handedly examine the God
hypothesis? What rewards are religious skeptics given by the established religions – or, for that
matter, social and economic skeptics by the society in which they swim?"

Why, indeed?

[bibleburner]

Just like a human hand reached in and took the money, a human hand reached in and removed the body of Jesus. Thanks for clearing up that possibility, John.

[ianthornton]

Though one were to go to them who was raised from the dead, they would not believe. Therefore they have Moses and the prophet's.

[thisisanfield]

Where are the miracles today in the age of cameras?

[lizadowning]

Resurrections in 'those days' were a common literary trope.
The very popular story of Alexander the Great also claimed he 'walked among the living'.
In the chronicals, several roman emperors were seen walking among the living, it was even 'attested' by witnesses.


About any 'superhero' in the Hellenic literary era had divine powers, performed miracles, faced adversity, died a horrible death, etcetera.
To the contrary, it would have been quite remarkable if Jesus, the hero in the gospel story, would not fit the character of the typical hero.