Why Am I Me and Not You? with Bernard Carr and Bernardo Kastrup

#consciousness #metaphysics #philosophy #mysticism #quantumphysics #time #idealism

In Philosophy Babble - The Great Minds Series
In this instalment; We have two distinguish speakers, Emeritus Professor of Mathematics and Astronomy, Bernard Carr and Philosopher, Author and Scientist Dr Bernardo Kastrup.

Details;

Topic of discussion : Why am I me and not you?
1. What implications does this have for our understanding of individual identity?
2. How can we reconcile that we experience ourselves as unique individuals with the fact that we are all part of a broader collective consciousness?

Summary:
The conversation covered a variety of topics, such as the link between physics and philosophy, the history of philosophy, the multiverse and many-world interpretation, Newton's gravity as a convenient fiction, the relationship between matter and mind, the key prejudices in physics, the definition of the physical universe, psychical research and mysticism, precognition, the new paradigm, the nature of time, near-death experiences, the fragmentation of consciousness or God, Cosmic Uroboros, and the bending of time. Professor Carr expressed his enjoyment of the debate, and Sam expressed his utmost appreciation. Kyle brought up the Dalai Lama and Buddhism.

They talked about infinitesimal time and how time is the answer to everything out of nothing. Professor Carr gave an impressive explanation of PK, and he made a joke about transcending time that made everyone chuckle. They discussed reincarnation, lucid dreaming, and the nature of identity. They talked about the differences between simulation theory and the laws of nature and defined the concept of God. The conversation also touched on creativity and collective consciousness with time, and they concluded that we are a product of nature.

Timecodes
00:00 - Intro
03:25 - Carr on, Why there is a link between Physics and Philosophy
07:49 - Bernardo’s views on the history of Philosophy
13:55 - Carr on controversy around the multiverse and many world interpretation
18:09 - Bernardo on Newton’s Gravity was a convenient fiction and it helped us landed on Moon
21:59 - Misinterpretation of Schrodinger’s equation anger Bernardo
22:59 - Carr defends the important of physics
25:19 - The relationship between Matter and Mind
29:54 - The key prejudices in physics
35:01 - Define the meaning of Physical Universe?
37:45 - Bernardo’s definition on Physicality
43:13 - The most difficult problem in Computer Science
44:28 - On psychical research and mysticism
47:09 - Bernardo on precognition
50:23 - The new paradigm!
52:30 - How can you be me? The answer is TIME
53:24 - The fundamental of the universe is a Cosmic Mind
54:30 - How can you be Bernardo and not Bernard
56:42 - Brain can’t generate consciousness
01:01:56 - The nature of TIME
01:05:45 - Near Death Experience (NDE)
01:07:14 - Specious Presence
01:13:01 - The Fragmentation of Consciousness or GOD
01:20:16 - Cosmic Uroboros
01:21:52 - The bending of time
01:26:06 - The model is the only game in town
01:28:49 - Professor Carr professed he enjoyed the debate too much!
01:29:13 - Sam expressed his upmost appreciation
01:30:33 - Kyle on Dalai Lama and Buddhism
01:34:28 - Bernardo on Heraclitus, once said, “No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it is not the same river and he is not the same man.”
01:37:04 - Infinitesimal time
01:39:15 - Time is the answer to everything out from nothing
01:43:00 - Carr’s impressive explanation of PK
01:52:05 - Carr joked on transcending time made us all chuckles
01:52:20 - Martin’s question on reincarnation, lucid dreaming and consciousness
01:56:26 - What’s the nature of identity
01:58:26 - Alexey’s question on lucid dreaming and virtual reality
02:03:27 - Bernardo’s view on mental state and simulation theory
02:07:02 - Simulation Theory vs The Laws of Nature
02:13:59 - Defining GOD
02:17:37 - Creativity and the Collective Consciousness with TIME
02:25:50 - Humanity are a product of nature

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[nowenterpsie]

Wow! Can't quite believe academics are vocally addressing these topics which I've intuited since childhood. Thank you, feeling such gratitude 😍

[prinstonmbbaby]

I am a 73 year old great-grandmother and I listen to Bernardo several times a week. (Especially loved the one with he and Rupert Spira) I admit I have to have a Dictionary close by 😉...but I learn so much from him, particularly about the nature of Consciousness. Just something about Bernardo...👍

[sherrydionisio]

Bernardo Kastrup IS special. He is easily understood, authentic and humbly gracious. It takes only one time hearing Bernardo speak and most know he is seriously noteworthy.

[Nettamorphosis]

What a time to be alive where I can read their essays, understand 60% of it, and then watch them discuss it!!!

[valuemastery]

I find the example of metaphysical experience that Bernardo talked about very interesting, the grandma that had a head stroke, and his girlfriend knew about it. When I was still a kid, we had a similar experience in our family. Our family (i.e. me and my parents) moved far away from my grandparents, because my father found work there. Now, after many years, suddenly my mother woke up in the middle of the night and started packing everything we need to travel and put it in the car. My father woke up and asked here what she was doing and why she was preparing for travel. My mother said, she had no idea, just felt that it was important but didn't know why (and normally she didn't do weird stuff like this). So we were all puzzled. Then the phone rang, and we were informed that my grandpa was in the hospital hundreds of kilometers away, and he's about to die, and we should pack our most important stuff and come as quickly as possible. My mother had already done this, and we were ready to go immediately. My grandfather died a few hours later in the early morning.

[chipkyle]

Wow, the last 10 minutes or so Bernardo pulled it all together for me. Like poetry, it was. A moving story he weaved.

[jtvictoriajr]

Bernardo speaks the truth, No Thing happens, or everything is No Thing. The physicist wont be able to understand bernardo as well as the other people who asked questions because they thought, a person is the same as consciousness which is fundamental. Bernardo you, nailed it!!! Amazing.

[patrickl]

Oh, hell yeah. Love me some Bernardo!

[danluba]

Bernard Carr just unwittingly reinvented the TV show Quantum Leap.

[luanap.f.]

this is so incredible, it's the first time I hear someone else talk about that question, the question I asked myself when I was a kid " If I weren't I would I still exist? " and then my brain 'froze', cause I was a child of 5 or something, that's so cool to hear about these things, I'm not even interested in the answer, but to hear someone else has asked the same questions, that makes me feel less lonely. Another experience I don't feel any longer is when I was younger, then I Looked at my hands And felt completely alien to myself, as if I were looking from outside.

[adamd]

Starting at 55:26, Bernard Carr sets up his argument that brains aren't the generators of consciousness because of the "why am I me, and not you?"... Listening to his argument, all the sudden it clicked for me... holy crap he's right i thought... It only lasted for a second though... But I do really think there is something there with that argument. I'll be thinking about that idea more.

[reneobeworks]

A mindblowing (and mindfragmenting) conversation.

[eminesavasir]

Bernard means brave as a bear. Now we also know smart and intelligent. I love it. This is incredible conversation. Historical. Both deserve the Nobel Prize.

[skemsen]

Oh wow - Bernardo went full non-dualism on us there! 😂 Fantastic conversation! Thank you so much. Can’t wait for part 2. Hopefully with shorter answers from Carr and more questions from the audience 🤞😄

[raindogred]

Bernard talking about the specious present changing was interesting. Time seeming to speed up when doing something fun etc. The opposite seems to happen when you do something like extreme sports when heart is racing and adrenaline flowing. I have had experiences whilst surfing, where you ride a tube and time 'seems' to slow down, where an instant in time becomes etched in your mind..i can remember vivid details of individual water droplets from waves ridden 30 years ago, seeing the colours, roar of the wave sound..probably fight or flight response and from adrenaline. I think the same must happen for skiers, race car drivers, mountain climbers..where your on the edge of disaster and your senses become hyper alert, , or something. This was a very interesting discussion.

[ricardoarturodelgado]

The most wonderful and deepest two and a half hours I've spent on youtube! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[VenusLover]

Thanks so much for this 💎 gem! You guys are infinitely inspiring beyond time and space! Eternally grateful for your work. All of you in this video

[eminesavasir]

The triangle analogy reminds me of Kandinsky’s and Maslow’s triangles. Fascinating discussion. I am an artist who is studying the role of consciousness in art. Big fan of these brilliant men. Thank you for this very informative and interesting discussion.

[Meditation]

Omg I want another podcast with these 2 wonderful men!! I could sit here for hours upon hours listening to their thoughts and theories. Please get these guys back again. I found this to be extremely interesting and massively intriguing!! 👍👍❤️

[leahlincoln]

Well even though this was posted 6 months ago and I am just now watching because I've gotten very interested in Kastrup, because I find him exceedingly intelligent, probably mainly because he is able to observe without judgment and use introspection with what he observes, it seems that very few, especially men, are able to observe without judgment, then use introspection with an honest observational view lacking judgment but including consistent introspection, although posted 6 months ago I feel compelled to respond because I find that I like Mr Carr much more than expected so I thought I'd make a comment or two on Mister Carr's views with which he very consistently implies he knows not whether it is correct or not my implicit comment is that Mr Carr you are much more correct than you realize I'm surprised that your dreams haven't made this clear but perhaps they have and you just can't express it here I think it's interesting how intensely Mr Bernardo listens to you in this video I decided to make this comment to express Mr Carr you are correct how do I know this? My experience in the travel of consciousness yes there is a prism not necessarily a hierarchy that's a convenient way of understanding how a prism works but one would never consider the prism of colors or sound in music for example to be a hierarchy in that you would never omit the wonderful high sounds to the low sounds in a musical configuration any more than you would omit the high and low vibrations of an existence in a hierarchy what we call lucid dreaming today will soon be found becoming conscious in another state in another place we consider it becoming conscious while we are dreaming but logistically it makes more sense that we are becoming conscious in another space that space and Consciousness being a prism of several different stations like a train predicts expresses and mathematically calculates that yes not only are we all one configuration but also a million configurations in order to be an individual you must be a cosmos to be large must be small I wish I could speak more specifically about this in this post but it's just not possible but I can say that I am very talented in the travel of Consciousness and that the dream state is a part of the prism that could be referred to as the seventh dimension I have had the version of my own existence from that dimension appear to me visit me in that state we call dreaming which is actually another state of consciousness she is a faster version existing of me that is able to calculate and see much bigger and faster than I possibly can where I am here in the third dimension. she visited me once for just an instant because in the terms of prisms and Consciousness it's illegal not presentable under the architecture of Consciousness without collapse this means that we are many and one at the same space I get very frustrated with the use of the word time t i m e it's never expressed or explained accurately even by you guys there is an objective reference to time anywhere which is that it is the Rhythm of movement of space therefore to refer to real time as is often specified it must always be either referred to as clock or rhythm of space therefore there is no such thing as a state of time a dimension of time there is perhaps a reference to the rhythm of space movement and that all space movement could be referred to as a state of time but that would only be the references to the rhythm of space moving not a clock any other references that are not to space moving are the references to the imagination produced by the human being of the clock by slicing up those rhythms into numbers this is not a real existence this is a consequence of perception by the human Through Math the only real existence of what we refer to as time is the rhythm of space movement this is why when dreaming time seems to dilate it doesn't dilate it doesn't exist in that state of that consciousness I get very frustrated that no physics people know philosophy people nobody refers to the reference of time as it has been sliced up by a clock being the movement of rhythm of space most of the references of time by human physics psychologist and more are the references of the clock 24 hours and nothing else not even the rhythm of the movement of space this is very disappointing anyway most important I thought that you know Mr Carr if you happen to see this post you are correct there is a version of me in the third dimension there is a version of me in the seventh Dimension there is a version of me in the 4th 5th and 6th Dimension there are three zillion versions of me in the entire existence of whatever might be called universes or Cosmos and those versions of me are all versions of you and therefore are versions of Millions however the concept of being a singular one against those Millions is only a concept to recognize the Millions the same as a plan is an architecture configured in order to recognize the spontaneous random without the architecture of plan you can never recognize random that's why Mr Carr and Mr Kastrup random doesn't seem like an existence to you it is but you can't see it unless you see it against the counter on which everything exists meaning all existence you must see the counter of architecture in order to recognize random or spontaneity ❤GEM❤