Which Religion Advanced Science More? Islam or Christianity? | Inspiring Philosophy

The Christian Church helped science grow. The data is clear. A reply to @GeoHussar

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[firtazile]

People will defend anything and everything as long as it is not Christianity and sometimes outright deny its benefits and influence.

[ToursPoitiers]

I am a historian of science and this is well known. We are only gradually opening up to the scientific enquiries of the medieval periode in Europe. It's unbelievable, .that when people talk about the west they tend to do anything to rant about it, even backing up their theories by long disproven narratives like the 19th century tale about the bad church.

As an academic I can sign all things said by IP. Chapeau!

[huntergallant]

This is one of the things that frustrates me the most about non-believers here in the west. They love and sometimes practically worship the fruits of Christianity (modern science, our moral standards, education for all), and yet have nothing but contempt for Christianity itself, even though Christian beliefs are what made the things they enjoy about the modern world possible. It's like wanting to live in a nice house but then trying to tear up the foundation beneath, never considering that the house will collapse WITHOUT that foundation.

[Derek_Baumgartner]

Look at the fathers of modern science - not only the oft-named Galileo, but also Newton, Babbage, Faraday, Bacon, and more.
Look what they had to say about God: these were not 'nominal believers', but motivated by their belief in the Creator.

[JonCrs]

Islam named Algebra, Christianity made sure everyone knew it.

[Chance_Rice]

Fun fact: Nikola Tesla's dad was an Orthodox priest

[WaywardTemplar]

The only instance of the Catholic Church holding back math and science is an incident from the Middle Ages. In short, Archimedes invented calculus in a work titled “The Method” this book had its ink scraped off by a medieval scribe and was only rediscovered using modern technology. Even this incident doesn’t disprove the Church’s aid in the advancement of science, just that a medieval scribe ran out of paper and erased the first known treatise on calculus.

[Sleepyhead]

Last night some ignorant atheist said that "back then any new discovery had to be approved by the church" and that was followed up by "mUsLiMs iNvEnTeD tHe NuMbEr zErO" 😂

[baptizedbigfoot]

The craziest part about it is that the massive growth of science from Christianity is just a nice side benefit that only pales in comparison to the main one: the salvation of mankind.

[borneandayak]

A number of historians have suggested that modern science arose in a Christian culture because core Christian beliefs provided the presuppositions needed for science to get started. British scholar, R. G. Collingwood, has written:

“The presuppositions that go to make up this Catholic faith, preserved for many centuries by the religious institutions of Christendom, have as a matter of historical fact been the main or fundamental presuppositions of natural science ever since.”

How do these presuppositions follow from core Christian beliefs?

1. The scientists of the 17th Century believed the material world to be good because God had made it good. Genesis 1 ends with the comment, “God saw all that he had made and it was very good” (Gen. 1:31). Moreover, the essential goodness of matter is affirmed by the Incarnation.

2. The founders of modern science believed that the universe is regular, orderly, and rational because God is personal, rational, and faithful.

3. They believed that the order of the universe is contingent because the existence and behavior of the created world depends on the will of a sovereign Creator. The importance of this theological perspective, for science, is that one cannot deduce the behavior of the natural world from first principles. God could have made a world that behaved in any way he wished, so if you want to know how the world does behave, you have got to go and look. Hence, the importance of observation and experiment, an approach that distinguished the science of the 17th Century from the deductive approach of the ancient Greeks.4

4. 17th Century scientists believed that the behavior of the material world is intelligible to human reason because God has made us in his image and given us a mind with which to think.

[RichardEdwards]

By the sixth century AD, Assyrian Christians had begun exporting back to the Byzantine Empire their own works on science, philosophy and medicine. the literary output of the Assyrians was vast. The third largest corpus of Christian writing, after Latin and Greek, is by the Assyrians in the Assyrian language. The Assyrian philosopher Job of Edessa developed a physical theory of the universe, in the Assyrian language, that rivaled Aristotle's theory, and that sought to replace matter with forces (a theory that anticipated some ideas in quantum mechanics, such as the spontaneous creation and destruction of matter that occurs in the quantum vacuum).[158]

[aaronharlow]

Reading Tom Hollands book Dominion, almost finished. Highly recommend it.

[JadDragon]

Christianity. Obviously.
It's not even a question.

Jesus lives! ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

[borneandayak]

If Islam was so advance at that time in science, then why modern science and scientific revolution and industrialization didn't emerge in the Middle East?

[Proverbs_]

Protestant sociologist, Rodney Stark, ‘Bearing False Witness’

Thomas E Woods Jr. ‘How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization’

[borneandayak]

For science to get going, one needs a set of presuppositions, or foundational beliefs, about the natural world. These beliefs include the following:

1. The universe is good, and it is a good thing to know about it. If people believe that matter is evil, they won’t be inclined to investigate it.

2. The universe is regular, orderly, and rational. If people believe that material behavior lacks order, they won’t bother to study it.

3. This order could be of two types. It could be necessary order, in which case we should be able to discover the order by pure thought. Alternatively, it could be contingent order, in which case we must discover the order by observation and experiment. Belief in necessary order is disastrous for science, whereas belief in contingent order is essential to its development.

4. Human sense perception and reason are basically reliable, and the regular patterns of material behavior are intelligible to the human mind.

[borneandayak]

*Noble Prizes winner tell us everything :*

1. Christian : 65.4%
2. Jews : 21%
3. Muslim : 0.8%

[misseli]

Few things disappoint me as much as when someone defends medieval Europe from the claims that it was hopelessly backward, only for them to say that any and all good things that came out of medieval Europe were *in spite of* the church.

[von_nobody]

Funny is that St. John of the Cross in of one his letters siad that Earth move around Sun and use this as example to explain some teleological concept, this mean he know that letter receiver understand this too. And all this happen half-century BEFORE Galileo trail. Even more in Catholic Spain.

[mpattoncovidiot]

most nobel prize winners were Christian lol