This Single Board Computer is Faster than a Mac Mini AND a Raspberry Pi

It costs more than 15x the price of a pi here so as a pi comparison it's pretty useless because price was its defining point. As a powerful SBC, it'd work in some niches where cost isn't as much as an issue.

MichaelBransonCoach

$579 USD for the base model of 16gig and no SSD, it's not cheap. Interesting for niche applications I guess, personally I'd prefer an AMD chip were I going this route.

davocc

Finally! Someone using the pcie lanes. So tired of 1 m.2 and no TB4 single board computers. Lots of other connections you can do with m.2 too like to 5 sata ssd's to make a tiny and fast storage server.

fwiler

Faster than MacMini in multicore score by 2% but slower in the same benchmark in single core by 15%? By definition, that means its a slower.

DS-pkeh

For me the pricing is making this a niche product. If we were talking $200 or less this would change the landscape completely. When you can get a more powerful mini PC for less and be able to upgrade the memory. I already own a arduino.

That was the attraction with the first couple of SBC. Compact, cheap and powerful. I'm not sure it's any of these

Kirkland-rvjf

Funny! I actually replaced all my raspberry pi's with 1 single small pc.. I think its powered by a AMD 8 core CPU. It's running proxmox and the best part is that it use less power than the 3 RPI's i had. Also love you can passthrough the usb ports to the VM and LXC.

clausdk

These people are misleading with their bs. Mac mini M1 is way faster than this...

kubicgo

At that price it had better be faster than a raspberry pi. But most uses for an SBC are not looking for speed; size and power consumption is what’s important.

marsrocket

Interesting your M2 Mac Mini performance figures seem to be lower than I have seen by quite amount.

andrewcrook

Interesting concept, but more expensive than a good used computer + arduino.

TravisHershberger

A 2012 Mac Mini is 4x the speed of a 2023 Raspberry Pi 4, but uses just 2x the power (and has better power management). Those unsupported minis can be patched for newer macOS, or run ubuntu. While a mini isn’t fanless, they are over engineered for quiet especially if you swap in an SSD.

thisisreallyme

Would like AMD 7840U or HS model there. Look at the scores that CPU has.

EDIT: Just followed the link on AliExpress. Its 709£ for version with 16Gb ram and 500Gb of SSD.
A miniPC with AMD Ryzen 7940HS (that tops those graphs for most of the part) with 16Gb ram and 1Tb SSD is 555£. Dimensions (mm): 120*110 vs 102x146 for Sigma.
If you do not need specifically board that has PIO connector, but just small computer, I think its very easy choice.

DS-pkeh

Looking to move from Mac Mini to Linux. Could this be a good replacement? It all comes down to how fast it can transcode 4K video in kdenlive… and 64GB RAM would make sense.

toniferic-tech

My biggest issue with it is the integrated memory... I was considering it as a massive upgrade from a 3B+, but will probably go with a recent tiny/mini/micro instead, at about 2/3 the cost of this.

nagi

I have questioned adding Arduino as a coprocessor to PC hardware, such as with udoo boards. You can always plug an Arduino into a USB port and have the same thing. But you *can not* remove a coprocessor from the motherboard. And what if you biff it, let the smoke out of the coprocessor? Yeah it is hard to to with an Arduino, has a lot of nets, electrically speaking, and range from $3 to $50... So why build it onto the board?

stalbaum

I don't think comparing it against either a Mac Mini or a Raspberry Pi is a good comparison. The former is a complete system and the later is significantly cheaper and smaller. I'm sure that it has its niche market, but I don't think it is the same one as either of the aforementioned.

dreamvisionary

I think some are missing the point when they think that a small x86 board is some kind alternative to a Arduino or RPi.

msys

The ATmega32U4 is a tiny chip. 32 KB self-programming Flash program memory, 2.5 KB SRAM, 1 KB EEPROM. Putting an RP2040 on there would make a massive difference. I'd really like to see one of the IO pins tied to the Reboot and Power button on the computer so the chip could control the computer meaning that while the board has power, it always runs the "Co-processor" chip of the RP2040.

Dygear

Oh! “… See STH content…”!
I just spend 3 minutes trying to find out what CSTH was! Hahaha

winnieRallycar

wtf, an intel nuc13anhi5 + nucaioaluws, is not only cheaper and better, it even provides great support and good regular bios updates.
who the hell needs an almost twice expensive latte panda, with soldered memory and no bios updates?
one of the videos where sth made some money and gives af to their users/viewers, lol

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