Can Angels Procreate With Women? | with Dr. Tim Chaffey

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In this episode of Theology Applied, Tim Chaffey joins the show to thoroughly dismantle every objection from Christians who say that fallen angels cannot procreate with human women.

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Talks like this are fascinating. We see that often the reality of God's creation is "stranger than fiction." He has no limits to His creativity.

jackjones
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Really hope Tim gets to come back again for another series on the show. These 4 installments have been some of my favorites. Learned so much, just utterly fascinating

ryaneckert
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I’m really glad you’re taking on these biblical topics. Too many people are scared to be seen to embrace anything that’s not welcomed by the world.

danielwarton
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It's almost as if heaven is a real place where the rebellious angels originally lived before they took wives and dwelt on the earth. It's fascinating to me how many Christians have been taught to disbelieve the reality of heaven as a physical and real location.

KingdomInContext
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1:00:36 this makes more sense to me than the other way. Since everything that God does is perfect, it stands to reason that since God made them with His own hands that Adam and Eve had perfect genetics, and since then… without contact with God, we have been becoming less perfect, not more.

stephencooper
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Great discussion. I think we make a big mistake by assuming every living creature in heaven is an “angel” as in a messenger that appears on earth for a specific ministerial purpose. I believe it’s pretty clear there are other creatures in heaven different from angels as we know them.

Brandaniron
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I always find it interesting how people accept some things as literal and some things as figurative, yet each person puts different things in different categories.

nathanbaker
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I've really enjoyed these conversations!

dylanmilks
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1) We have to always remember that angel means messenger, not 'life kind'. 2) If there is kind of angel messengers that are only male, that means they have certain organs. Everything has a purpose. Why would all angels have a certain organ set that has no useful purpose?

YoursInYeshua
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Excellent info. Deep and mind boggling!!

StephenCason-hk
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1 Corinthians 15:39-45 (LSB) All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a corruptible body, it is raised an incorruptible body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

Angels have a body of flesh, but not like our current bodies, but like what our glorified bodies will be and what our Saviour's is.

haroldwalma
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It’s interesting how they voice their speculation on angels being exclusively male but fail to observes that Genesis 6:2 says that “the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful” and then took wives and/or married them. This is an exclusive male action! And if Paul is referring to Genesis 6 regarding women covering their heads then again we have a male exclusive reference. So if female angels do exist then they are much better at controlling their libidos. Regarding this, isn’t it strange that God creates a male gendered species with sexual desire and with no legitimate sexual expression—especially in view of Genesis 1:11-24 “according to its/their kind, " 1:27 "male and female he created them, " 2:18 “It is not good that the man should be alone.”

mikeranieri
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I had a personal encounter with my Guardian Angel ... appeared totally human ... and it took me about an hour after he disappeared as quickly as he appeared for me to realize I had just spent a considerable amount of time with my Guardian Angel and there was no other explanation for it. It was 100% unambiguous. He saved me from serious trouble, perhaps even death, first appearing as a cop, then towed me home, SAME GUY, only this time with the cop having disappeared when the tow truck he promised to call me arrived. The switch, from cop to tow truck and driver, took about a minute, no exaggeration, then the tow truck driver told me to stay in the car and keep it on neutral, at which point he not only took me home, he backed my car into my assigned parking spot (Townhouse), and just like that, in the blink of an eye, he was gone, just like the cop, although it was obviously the same guy. That's when I realized neither one of them, the cop or the tow truck driver, ever asked for my license, registration, insurance card or verbally asked for my name and address, yet not only did the tow truck take me home, out of the 50 or so parking spots in the lot he put my car in my assigned spot, without ever asking me which spot was mine. BTW I rapped my car around a pole I knocked down on the divider. The next morning when I realized I had a supernatural encounter with my Guardian Angel (and we did briefly talk when he was the cop, and he just kindly asked if I was okay, then I remembered he did call me by my first name without asking for my name), but the rest all happened after a brief chat and he kindly told me he would call me a tow truck. So I go back to that EXACT SAME SPOT the next morning (a friend gave me a ride) just to see the damage. Well the pole was standing as if it had never been knocked down and there were no skids marks or ZERO indications on the grass divider that an accident occurred. That said, the MAIN POINT IS, I know for sure that Angels can appear as human as you and me. Somehow they can depart the spirit realm and enter the material realm ... and BTW, such encounters are Biblical too, so I know I'm not crazy.

GunRock
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So, did God create angels with male sex organs and if so why? Why would God create them with organs if God's will is for them to be celibate?

jenniferhall
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There is also much evidence that there are several different types/kinds of angels and a system of hierarchy even amongst them. Some angels are described as beautiful some are terrifying and some appear to men to be in a form that inspires worship evidenced by biblical accounts of men falling to their knees to worship before being swiftly rebuked.

RebelYHWH
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At around the 18:00 minute mark, I'm not sure why Amillenials would be singled out as being substantially differently than post or premillenials at that point. We believe all the same things after the final return of Christ in terms of the new heavens and new earth and how we will be.

HartyBiker
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I wish that the interviewer had allowed Tim Chaffey to elaborate more on the subject rather than hijacking the conversation.

dalemccorkle
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Can a cat mate with a dog and produce offspring?

rogers
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It would really help the viewers if you number your videos so the numbering is in the first title view (i.e. on YouTube).
Please consider this.
Thank you.

pln
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A Tim alberino interview would be really interesting on this topic

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