What’s the best value flour for making vegan meat?

Let's take a look at some of the most common flours used for making seitan, a plant based meat made from gluten. We'll use two chick'n recipes to test two vital wheat glutens and four flours (for wash the flour method) to see what is the best and cheapest way to make seitan.

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[TheeBurgerDude]

dude, if you become the vegan ethan chlebowski I am super behind that idea!! Great video!

[tamcon]

Actually shocked by the total lack of distinction between the BRM and Anthony's vital wheat gluten results. Bob is a highway robber! The best results I've ever gotten were from a bulk store's vital wheat gluten, but that's a [clutches synthetic pearls!] ConAgra product that I'd like to avoid, so when I replace my BRM vital wheat gluten, I'll do it with Anthony's. I cannot summon the energy to make WTF seitan, but I'm glad to see the regular sack flour results for when I'm able to try it. Thanks for putting in all this effort to make us better informed!

[Bodybystephdotcom]

I love your statistical analysis of the 4 flours. I didn’t know that bread flour had more gluten in it. I used to be a Quality Engineer so I appreciate all the work done to collect the data. I also know how much work it is to wash flour! I wash it 7 times (2mins/each wash). So thank you for all the work you did making this video!

[AV]

Dude, I just made a big ball of resting seitan dough and put a towel over it, and then I get this video notification from you. Haha

[barefootbb]

Such a great video!! It probably took so much time to prepare all of that seitan. I am definitely buying Anthony’s VWG next time, and I’m going to try the wash the flour method at home with King Arthur’s bread flour. Thank you!

[CraigMcArthur]

Wow! I am lucky. In the UK VWG is available for £5 per kilo (about 8 Can$ or 6 US$). I will not be complaining anymore.

[victormoraes]

I've been away from YouTube for a few weeks, so only now I got to watch the two latest videos: loved both of them and loved the new haircut 🥰🥰🥰

[deliamak]

I’m wondering if Kroger actually gets the exact flour from King Arthur? Private brands usually cost less because they order mass quantities and repackage in their custom bags / boxes. 🤷‍♀️

[motivationalcorpse]

Great video, I guess the value ratios skew if you're making use of the left over starch water for facon though. Half the time now, I'm making wtf seitan just for the starch water!

[blahdelablah]

Thanks for the video. Was interested in whether the best value per kg for the WTF method beat the best vital wheat gluten option or vice versa, can you share what the prices were per kg?

[dontaemasciorini]

I'm stoked you put this to the test. I've been debating this for a while now.

[DanteVelasquez]

Thank you for this. I always use King Arthur bread flour because of the higher gluten, and bob's red mill because it's always locally available. Every time I pass those huge cheap bags of all purpose flour in Walmart I always have had a pang wondering if it was worth it to try LOL. I'm with you though in that all that work rinsing off the starch I want more gluten per batch, plus when I make Italian or Asian noodles from scratch I always prefer them with king Arthur's bread flour so I don't mind paying a little more for it 🙂

[drunkbunny]

As a more mathy person that cooky one as soon as you showed the cost of the flours for the wash method i figured that it wasnt going to be worth the cost since going from 11.7% to 12.7% is a 8.5% increase in yeild (thats the extra 100g per kg you mentioned including water and some carbs) and seeing that it cost 8.99 instead of 6.49 thats a 38.5% increase. If you want more yeild at the end you can always just start with more all purpose flour.

But yeah i dont see myself doing the wash method any time soon, its very labour intensive and looks like it would be a pain to track for calorie counting since you wash out starch and add water to the dough and you'd be weighing the final product which would be less accurate. With VWG i can measure all the ingredients before hand and divide everything by the number of portions easy.

[aninha]

I love watching these type of videos ❤😊

[Travybear]

Thank you for this great video, vital wheat gluten is a staple in my wife and I's pantry and this is excellent information! Can't purchase pre-made vegan foods and not go bankrupt these days!

[Lamar-khlw]

Great video again. It’s really nice to know that using another flour still works.

[basfinnis]

Thanks for the info mate. Very helpful 👍
I'll have a look at the flours on the UK.

[deidre]

Thanks for doing this research! I am happy to help taste any time!

[carollen]

Hi, good video. Is it worth buying Vital Wheat Gluten when Bread Flour can give the same results?
Is Vital Wheat Gluten just a time and labor saver?