Flutter just got Flocked! What does it mean for Flutter's future?

Flutter got forked. Flock is a project based on a current Flutter snapshot, aiming to develop and evolve it together with the community.
But is that a good idea?

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[TremaineBuchanan]

Agree 100 percent. Once the flutter community is segmented in this way, I think it will cause confusion for developers who want to adopt Flutter in the future.

[ngideo]

Google: "ah, finally, now we can cancel this project"

[maran.ath]

nah mate, with a lot of experience building actual cross platform with flutter, desktop support is bloody amazing, prefer it over native desktop, it's come a long way and done well, I even have another desktop app underway and since it's responsive, if i feel like it, I'll simply release it for web as well, and I haven't had issues with my web app either, w with wasm build time has significantly gone down

[dealloc]

Red flag I see already is that they don't go into the economics around hiring maintainers (they use the word "recruit" without specifying what that means) and how those resources are going to be allocated.

Establishing a clear path for how maintenance around different parts of the project is going to take place is the major factor in whether a fork (or even project) will thrive or cease. It's more than just code and merging MRs for the sake of it. The hardest part, and main difference, between a fork of an already established project, and a completely new project is the fact that the latter allows you to grow more slowly; whereas the former, people already have high expectations for how the fork is going to move forward.

[gorudonu]

1 dude cloned a repo, tech youtuber and flutter haters - celebrate and make video

[o_glethorpe]

flutter team allegedly have 50+ people working there, thats a lot of people ifs true, I think flock can only help flutter get better, people says flutter got killed almost every week, and the number of people that uses it continue to grow...

[fritzdeuces]

It's about time... Flutter development has stalled over the years. Maybe flock can get to the peak quicker than flutter.

[umitcelik]

Max. React Native announced new architecture with v0.76. Can you make content with it?

[stevebraintv]

unbiased and straight forward, I will suggest Google hire him to head the flutter team if he's so passionate about solving the issues and bring flutter to the next level.

[CheoWalker]

To be honest I was happy when flutter announced desktop support, but it was a bit underwhelming. The fact that the Firebase Packages do not work for Windows set me on a journey to find an alternative to Firebase. And now it feels like Flutter focus sometimes is to push Google's AI.

[truthalwaysprevails]

Ah, classic Google! Step 1: Launch a cool product. Step 2: Wait until everyone loves it. Step 3: Kill it off. Remember Orkut? Wave? And in 2022, they just ghosted the OG AngularJS, and now, RIP Chromecast.

[CanalianInc]

Its probably a good idea, I remember talking to one of the devs and he didn't know if he would even still have his job that afternoon. He was talking about all the things they couldn't work on due to lack of staff, that was a year ago, i guess its got worse now.

[TheBadFred]

It should be possible to off a complete new widgets as a Lib, right?

[darasat]

It's a marketing thing
Flutter is a great tool but how you convince big corporations to use it, we hope the community could resolve the issues in a better agile way.

[jkkdev]

Flutter is good as it is. I'm feeling like it's starting to get a little more like JavaScript. It is the same reason why I find it hard to learn JavaScript; There is a vast number of tools that you could use, that causes confusion especially to someone like me who's just starting to learn.

[DaniyalMoeen-jh]

Google could just sync up angular with flutter instead of focusing on its web support. they could introduce dart support in angular and let angular handle that aspect for flutter.

[danvilela]

Agree 100%. Flutter only ios and android would be years ahead of what is now..

[TheBadFred]

Futter web does work but Next (React), svelte etc. is much smaller (and faster to load) if it app has more than 2-3 screens/pages.

[TerenceKearns]

I'm putting my eggs in the Kotlin basket. Nothing but good news coming out of the Jetbrains team. Compose Multiplatform is in beta and it looks good to me. Kotlin 2 is also on the horizon and they have the pedal to the metal. I'm investing all my time into learning Kotlin at the moment and I gotta say, it's way better than I expected.

[obvinpro]

one dude fork flutter, create a blog, and y'all are making videos about it.