DRAGONBALL GT - HOW DO YOU FIX IT? | A Dragonball Discussion

Dragonball GT has a lot of potential, it's just that a lot of it was wasted due to poor writing decisions. However, with just a few tweaks, it can easily be made into a much more enjoyable series. Join me as I talk about how Goku and friends could come together and make GT great!

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[PhilosophyTube]

The crux of the matter is that when Vegeta turns SSJ4 he automatically acquires leather trousers from nowhere, and that is objectively cool.

[Sjono]

The biggest sin was teasing and not delivering an adult Gotenks

[ianr.navahuber]

one thing for sure is, No matter how much people hate or love GT. You have to admit, that, th dragon balls becoming the final enemy of the franchise is the best concept for the final antagonists the franchise could ever hope to have (and is still the best)

[U.F.O]

Baby is easily the scariest villain in the series. Not intimidating, actually scary. He's a parasite, created solely to be capable of infecting and commanding all documented life in existence at the time of his creation.
Filled with a hatred for the Saiyans that wiped out his entire progenitor race, he literally body hops across the galaxy, following the heroes until he's ready.
He heads to Earth and... infects EVERYONE. Suddenly, your greatest allies, your friends, your family... they want you DEAD. Their personalities twisted into this strange reflection of themselves, filled with malice and a pride for the race that created the vermin now playing the role of puppet master. It was horrific for me as a kid, watching all these characters I'd loved ever since I found Z, become villains. Vegeta's infection in particular, scared me. Watching him struggle, his power rising to try and force this disgusting slime out of him, ultimately fails as we watch him be completely subdued. Baby spreads throughout his body, and the white hair, and red markings, indicated Vegeta, the Saiyan prince, Goku's eternal rival, wasn't there anymore. In his place, was Baby.

[robertsides]

I really didn't hate GT. Though I kinda hated Goku being a kid the whole damn time, too much Trunks, and the way everyone looks like they're all oiled up. Seriously, why are they all so shiny?!

[bocodamondo]

"be careful what you wish for" is actually a pretty clever tittle for GT since aside from what happened in the show, GT only happened because people demanded more DB after Z ended and as a result we got GT....

[comiclove]

I agree completely with the sentiment that GT should have had Goten and Trunks as its primary characters, I mean just think about it GT.

[ghostgokuoldchannel]

Goku: Man, I wonder how in the world do I fix GT... If only there were away...
Piccolo: Yeah, if ONLY...
Gohan: Wow Dad, seems REALLY DIFFICULT to figure out, huh?
Uub: Yep, a COMPLETE mystery to be sure!
Buu: Buu sure is unsure!
Gotenks: Yep, I guess we'll NEVER find out how to make this show better...
Goku: ...If only there were a way...
Vegeta: GIVE US SCREEN-TIME!!!

[Legionbass]

How about making Uub matter? He was trained by Goku for years and even got a huge power up in the Baby arc only for it to mean nothing right after, when Baby changed forms again.

[TushantMirchandani]

What are you talking about? I LOVED that Goten fighting off Baby while going on a date with his girlfriend scene.

[Zekana]

goku getting killed by the wish from the black star balls would have made the most sense. actually, it could have worked out where emperor pilaf, as his wish, could have been "Oh how i wish I could send you to hell!" and boom, goku is in hell. enternal suffering, having to fight against ALL the villains goku has had to fight over the years, and the black star balls could have some clause to them where a normal dragon cannot undo the wish of a black star dragon due to the immense power difference.

so to sum up, goku is dead and in hell, and the crew have to go out to get the black star balls to wish goku alive again cause a good guy being in hell is a pretty big no-no. that premise alone could be interesting and could incorporate the later hell arc stuff and super 17.

[Kiurazz]

How do you fix it:
1) No kid Goku. Fuck kid Goku
2) Goten instead of Trunks in space. We aldready saw an adult Trunks in Z. It's not exactly like the one in GT, but we have an idea of how he looks and acts. Goten, on the other hand, is basically a new character now, and he got little to no space in GT. We didn't even see adult Gotenks, that was a big mistake.
3) Make Pan less annoying
4) Make the search for the Dragon Balls in the universe more interesting. The planets were boring, the enemies (with the exception of Rilldo) were bland and not that poweful. It tried to re create the feeling of the original Dragon Ball, but it failed.
5) Make Baby more interesting. Talking about villains, Baby is the best one in GT. But he is far from perfect. First, his origins. they are literally Cell's origins, no fucking difference. It should have been a member of the last living tuffle family who, after hearing that there were still some Saiyans alive, trained for years to become more powerful. He could have been a tragic villain, someone with a purpose to be evil. They kinda tried to do that, but at the end he was just a "Fuck you saiyans you are gonna die because i'm strong".
6) Remove Super 17 or create a completely different villain
7) Make only one Shadow Dragon. There are 7 shadow dragons, only 2 of them are actually interesting (Nuova and Omega). All the others were there just because "There are 7 Dragon Balls, we have to make 7 dragons". They weren't interesting, they weren't memorable, they were just there because of the plot. Omega was good, but he was treated like a final boss of a videogame instead of an actual character. He is the most powerful foes in all of Dragon Ball, let him have more space!

[yaelthesnail]

1) give Uub actual development and screentime. An arc where he started having flashes of memory from being Kid Buu and how that affected him would've been awesome.

2) make Bra an interesting character like her parents, instead of a simple spoiled princess. Making the daughter of the smartest human and the Prince of Saiyans so shallow a character is frankly criminal.

[dadobojart]

how would I fix Dragonball GT...

A: Hey, remember those first 25 episodes or so? The one on which they were looking for the Black Star Dragon Balls to stop the Earth from being destroyed? Before they first found the remainments of the Tuffles? Could we... Have something intersting happen on then, please? I mean, come on, they are going all across the galaxy here: It would be a perfect opportunity to introduce new races, or new characters, or new... Something.

B: Speaking on the Tuffles: As for Baby, am I the only one who feels he was way too card-carriyng evil, when his background could have made for a almost perfect "tragic" and sympatethic villain? I mean, first of all, let us take away that "Killing his own minions for fun" bullshit, and secound of all:

Imagine a episode showing a city of people controlled by Baby, at their own perspective... And imagine that city actually working pretty well. The citizens would be peacefull, helping out eachother, having a sense of union, and, if anything, the city would have grown a lot more of focus into academics and scientifical research, almost reflecting how a typical Tuffle city would have went, and being a place that seems like it would be wonderfull to live in, wasnt for the detail that... You know, everyone there is being controlled by Baby. Then, imagine one of the heroes coming to that city, and the citizens looking at it in terror: At first, frozen in place by fear, their foreheads sweating, the eyes wide open... And then, a few cuts to anotbher scene: Of a very similar city, burning in fire, their buildings reduced to ruins, with dead and dismembered bodies everywhere... As a group of Saiyans, their faces covered in shadows, walk, the occasional ki blast coming out of their hands to produce a massive explosion... And, as a woman would trip in the front of one of the Saiyans, looking at it in fear... The beast would smile, before we would see, from her perspective, one of the blasts being shot at her. And then, back at the scene with Goku and his friends, they would run, get some weapons, and call Baby for help.

I would have found Baby a-Amazing-Villain if we had a scene along these lines. Something to show the world at his perspective: Showing that he really isnt a bad person, at least, not in goal: All he wants is to bring back a civilization that, on its prime, was near utopic, and to kill off a race he has every reason in the world to think of as evil, brutal barbarians. Granted, the WAY he wants to bring back that civilization is certainly questionable to say the least, and the remaining Saiyans happen to be very good people... But come on: If Baby has the memories of the Tuffles whose DNA were used to make him, odds are, the poor guy was literally-Born-With PTSD.

C: As for Super Android 17: Dont. ... Allright, the idea didnt sucked THAT hard, but... It was literally just "Androids going on a rampage" all over again. Do we really need to do the exact same plot twice? Maybe one of you guys can think of a way to add a decent twist to it compared to the first time, but none is coming to my head right now.

D: And, as for the Shadow Dragons: I just wished most of then had been more powerfull, really. The only ones who felt as if they actually had a chance at winning were Ein, Nuova, Syn... And maybe Naturon, after he absorbed Pan( Thus leading to a admittedly heartwrenching scene ). The rest? You just knew there was no way they could defeat a guy that was used to fight beings who can blow up entire planets. Actually, this is my main problem with Dragonball GT in general: Only a handfull of times you actually get the feeling there is any chance our heroes may lose.

[joeygray]

I really wish they would have brought the Super Saiyajin 4 transformation back. It was so well designed..

[godkianimations]

ball, z, gt, kai, heroes, super....absalon can't we all just get along and agree that evolution was bullshit

[grandiosereject]

I've always thought that vegeta's dumb gt hair was just a result of him cutting it. so it's not a natural change. thus a plot hole is avoided

[timothymclean]

I like a lot of the concepts in GT. Heck, if you summarize the main arcs' "high concept" (as interpreted by yours truly) as succinctly as possible, they sound somewhere between decent and fascinating. "Interstellar Dragon Ball hunt". "A race the Saiyans destroyed gets revenge at last". "Villains the heroes killed team up in HFIL to get their revenge"*. "The heroes finally face consequences for abusing the Dragon Balls so much". And the Golden Oozaru and SSJ4 are basically combining previous transformations rather than just being slightly different upgrades like SSJ2 and 3 (and the versions Vegeta and Future Trunks tried on Cell); hence, I prefer their concepts to the other SSJ forms'. (Though SSJG—the red one—is definitely a close second.)
It's a shame the execution was so flawed.

*Definitely the weakest, but it's still not bad.

[maryshepherd]

Well, I don't think that Pilaf is actually a bad guy he just thinks he is. Pilaf and the gang are actually pretty innocent as far as villains go, they just seem bad. They just wanted to get their wish to rule the world and would try to do that by any means but he didn't want to be an evil ruler like Piccolo did. I would say he is kinda like Oolong, he did some pretty nasty things but is as harmless as a fly. Really they are just idiots. But, you know, I would say that Trunks is a pretty good influence on them.

[Whole_Note]

I don't care what else would change, Vegeta's moustache stays.