Christian Has A Burden of Proof Issue

@DailyCorvid seems to think that the burden of proof for truth claims doesn't lie with the person making the positive claim but only with the truth-seeker. Has he found a way to shield himself from the burden he assumes with his claims? Or is this yet another attempt to shift a burden that's gotten too much for him to handle?

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#dailycorvid #atheism #rationalism #christianity #apologetics #evidence #logic #justification #science #reason #philosophy #epistemology

[BillGarrett]

Congratulations to this guy on his conversion to every single new religion he's ever told about

[starfishsystems]

"We just have to convince atheists that a face-eating leopard makes a really loving family pet."

[billiwickey]

I'm so tired of the "God answers prayer" bullshit.
When my daughter's cancer was in remission, the church said See God answers prayer. When she died from the cancer, they said she didn't accept his cure because I didn't make her go to church all the time.
Six months later when my BFF died from the cancer that had been in remission for several years, the church told the congregation it was because we had stopped praying.

When I came out as an atheist, the church said that God knew that I would say that so he took people that I loved to force me to love him. It doesn't make any sense but they don't make a lot of sense when they are trying to defend their God claims.

[Wolf-lnml]

The whole "it's up to you to seek out the evidence" thing just serves to demonstrate what an utter hypocrite people like this are. How much time has he spent searching for the evidence for Allah, Zeus, Odin, Quetzalcoatl, fairies, gnomes, leprechauns, unicorns, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, all those invisible, intangible dragons living in people's garages, ...? None? Ah, yeah, then he has *_zero_* justification for demanding that I waste any time on his specific fantasy creature.

[thecatattheend]

'Unfalsifiable' doesn't mean it cannot be proven or disproven and so we must give it equal consideration. Unfalsifiable means it has been described such that it cannot be proven no matter what you come up with, and therefore can be dismissed as equally as all infinite possibilities.

[theflyingdutchguy]

The analogy with the elephant in the dream would be a better analogy if he claimed the 7 headed elephant is an actual living creature he has in his garage.

[Resopmirepus]

"...i can't prove that i'm right,
so you have to prove it for me"
🤦🏻‍♂️ a 4th grade winning tactics

[ianbabineau]

And Jesus said “go forth my disciples and lie to and confuse the unbeliever into believing in me”.
Apparently honesty isn’t a virtue and lying isn’t a sin.

[IheartDogs]

I have less confidence now than a year ago that we can bridge any divides at all.

[TheSkyGuy]

The book of claims is not proof of the claims being valid or logically sound. 😊

[kevinnazario]

Again, you prove to be one of the sharpest minds on YouTube when it comes to use logic and reason to dismantle theistic claims and fallacies. Bravo sir!!

[JoyRBradford]

This should be easy for a theist! Every argument for the existence of a God always ends with the God of the gaps argument.

[question-question]

I jumped over to his videos and it seems he deletes and blocks comments he doesnt like- "This is a christian channel, and if you dont like christians, you dont belong here.." I guess he just wants an echo chamber.

[cobalt]

By his logic, I could get a very steady job as a teacher by insisting the onus of learning is on the students, and I can do absolutely nothing to help them learn what I know on the subject.

[nagranoth_]

_having_ evidence might help to get atheists to accept it...

It's so impressive how they get every single thing they talk about wrong. Disturbing also...
and they're always so smug about it....

[brandons]

I don't understand why theists can't wrap their heads around the fact that atheism does not make a claim. Saying that "I'm not impressed with the evidence you've presented for your god" is not some thing that can be proven. There is no evidence to back up my non acceptance of the evidence they've provided.

[vereornox]

I actually had a discussion with this guy on the Ideal Rocket Equation in a comments section once. He said that a certain portion would get you an answer of zero, and after definitively proving that he was wrong by doing the equation with real variables, showing that it was nearly impossible to get zero thrust unless you manipulated certain variables to get a non-functioning rocket, he shifted the goal posts and started talking something he had said in a different comment thread. He even claimed that he mentioned order of operations when he hadn’t, but I had. There’s no getting through to him

[kevinfancher]

Correction at minute 2: "beyond REASONABLE doubt", rather than a 'shadow' of doubt.

[jonm]

"I would have to take that on faith"

Why?

[RustyWalker]

I don't mind explaining my justifications for outright rejecting his claim that the Abrahamic God exists in the interest of civil discourse, but I suspect he won't like them nor accept them.
- The data show that humans love to make up gods. It is overwhelmingly more plausible that the gods people are clinging on to for dear life are also made up.
- The data show that the Abrahamic concept of God has continuously evolved since its inception to match the needs of its adherents.
- The data show that the origin of the Abrahamic God as we know it lies in Canaanite polytheism. It's an amalgam of a couple of different gods none of us think were real in the way the Canaanites understood them.

I'm not taking the claim he had a dream of a multi-headed elephant on faith. I'm counting his testimony as evidence since it is firsthand, it maps onto reality as I know it, it is mundane, and it has in and of itself no negative consequences from its acceptance. However, in the strictest sense, I am in actual fact skeptical of the claim since it's a rhetorical point in a debate where he wants to shift the burden of proof. Thus, in the balance of probability, it is unlikely he ever had that dream and he is, rather, using it as an illustration. He is describing a possible dream he could have had knowing that I know people have dreams and they can be very peculiar in order to illustrate a point he thinks he is making. I do *not, * in fact, believe he ever had that dream. Would I believe it if he hadn't laid out his preamble and was telling me in the pub? Back to the original discussion about testimony.