Using Pentium 4 in 2020 with Windows 10

Using the good old Pentium 4 with Windows 10.

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[terminal]

3 things I love your channel:
1. Your English has accent.
2. Your face is never in video. No talking head.
3. Retro hardware porn.

[munkycheezz]

If you have Pentium 4, just thank God that you don't have Celeron D

[retropuffer]

Funny thing is that I actually wanted to know this. You'll be surprised what 16GB ram and SSD can do to an old computer! :D

[MarcoGPUtuber]

Phil asks and answers the real questions everyone needs to know.

[SudosFTW]

You can also get the Pentium 4 672 at 3.8GHz, which has virtualization. the 670 does not.

[Wushu-viking]

Nice video Phil. 20 year old architecture still functioning. Even though the Ceder Mill (2006) has newer instructions and, it is still based on the same lazy NetBurst architecture. Meaning brilliant in some predictable workloads, and lousy in unpredictable workloads.
It looks like Pentium 4 (finally) is RIP for Windows 10 in 2020, since it it can not really run much other that the OS and light browsing. But it was as working much better for videos and browsing, the last time you did the P4 vs Win 10 video, so this is one more evidence that Microsoft has updated Win 10, to make it much tougher to run.
But for XP and even Win 7, it's still fine. But really, one want a Core 2 Duo / Quad here for the LGA775 platform for a late XP rig.

[jangelelcangry]

I remember when Pentium 4s were everywhere. Now it's just a distant memory.

[bartoszm]

Fun fact - Pentium 4 family of cpus were working with SDR memory (Biostar M7TDB), RDRAM (Rambus), DDR1, DDR2 and DDR3. There is alot of history behind it like differences between RIMM's and DIMM's and using terminators in empty memory slots.

[whoshotdk]

"Half-Life 2 is a really old game"

Boomer here remembers the launch of Quake and the newbie contender Unreal.

[NikiDaDude]

Lol the GPU was just idling there at 300Mhz when playing Half Life 2 that's hilarious

[retro-computing-gaming]

The P4 is one processor I've stayed away from due to its extreme power requirements. I literally JUST did a quad-os custom build for someone (98 + XP + 7 + 10) on a Socket 775 board with a GeForce 6200, E7500 Core2Duo CPU, SSD, and 4GB of ram, and I was surprised to find that Windows 10 actually ran decently and even streamed HD content on youtube at full framerate.

[techquire]

you put so much effort in your videos.Keep it up

[unitedfools]

That's right, computers used to have one core lulz.

[MasterHan]

I remember using prescott 630 with geforce 6200 and ddr2 1gb. Nice to see that. Thank you Phil!

[xalalalala]

It's amazing what an extra core is capable of. I have exactly the same setup but with a Core2Duo E8500 and most of the games (obviously not newer games) run very well.

[TaskForce-nrsd]

For Youtube 720/1080p at 7:00, you need the h264ify extension to get h.264 video that the Radeon RX 580 can decode. RX580 is a Polaris (UVD 6.3) card that doesn't hardware decode VP9 video that Youtube defaults to. That forces the P4 to decode it, with the 100% CPU utilization in your demo.
I've used a 3.2 ghz Northwood P4 with Nvidia GT610 on Youtube. With h264ify, 720/1080p videos play smoothly. Although Youtube itself is slow because of heavy javascript that the P4 must process. Once the video plays, it's fine with a only a few frame drops.

[holorobo]

P4 makes a great windows 98 platform for me (have another machine for speed sensitive DOS games). I have a p4 2.8 on an Asus P4P800.. OC’d to a very stable 3.3 at default voltage. 512mb of memory running at 366. SB Live Value, Roland SC88-ST, and a nice set of old Altec Lansing speakers. Paired with a 9800 pro, it’s very happy running DeusX, Morrowind, Quake 3, even Star Wars KOTR all on max settings at very good frame rates. (Well, KOTR is borderline, but still quite playable). 3Dmark 2001 is 17404. I could have only dreamt of a PC like it back in the day. It’s fun to fulfill a 20+ year old tech fantasy :) It's in my living room, and gets used almost every day. Either for gaming, or playing kids music with good ol' winamp + visualizations. My 4 year old loves it.

[ksp]

Just a few weeks ago I bought the Cedar Mill 3.4Ghz to use in a motherboard that I got on ebay. It will be for win98 / winxp gaming. You video was useful, as it has prevented me going down the path of trying it on newer OSes.

[tzandels]

I remember buying Pentium 4 based machine just before release of Core2. Thought I could just upgrade, because hey, it is the same socket LGA 775, right? Well..

[bertnijhof]

Since June 2019 I use a Pentium 4 HT (3.0GHz) for ~1 hour/week for serious work. The main parts are coming from a 2003 HP D530 SFF. It has 1280MB DDR (400MHz) ; 2 x IDE HDD (250+320GB); 2 x SATA-1 HDDs (2x320GB, laptop 2.5") and 1Gbps Ethernet connection. The power supply is a new 600W iTech bought locally for DOP 1500 ($15). I assume the rating is: 60+ tin-plated. But the original HP only had a 250W power-supply and the P4 is protected by a 1200W Avtek surge protector. The tower case is from Compaq Evo with a Windows 98SE activation sticker :)

Having 1.21 TB of HDDs, it is is used as backup-server running 32-bits FreeBSD 12.2 (Nov 2020) on ZFS. All disks are striped and lz4 compressed to maximize the storage space, so it could contain ~2TB :) It receives the incremental, lz4 compressed backups from my Ryzen desktop with Ubuntu 20.04 also on ZFS. The backup runs at 200Mbps, due to a ~95% load on one P4 CPU thread for the network process. It is powered on and used for ~1 hour/week, so it ages say 1 week each year.