Romans 11:1-6: Who is the True Israel? with Dale Partridge

In this sermon podcast, Pastor Dale Partridge begins a deep dive into Romans 11, examining the doctrine of divine election and God's sovereignty over salvation. He addresses the tension between God's promises to Israel and the widespread rejection of Christ by the Jewish people. Pastor Dale explains that not all who are born of Israel are part of the elect remnant, and that God's plan has always included saving a foreknown and predestined group from ethnic Israel. Through this exploration, he highlights the profound truth that salvation rests not on human effort but on God's grace and sovereign choice, ultimately pointing to Christ as the fulfillment of God's promises.

[richardhayward]

To whom is the promise of the Land given - to the Church, or to Ethnic Israel. The present war in the Middle East concerns that Land. Should the Elect Remnant within Ethnic Israel not fight to maintain possession of that Land and abandon interest in it because Elect Ethnic Gentiles have no promises concerning it? Your otherwise profound exposition of the relationship of Jews and Gentiles within the Body of Messiah seems to ignore this question. As I see it, the difference between me (a Gentile believer) and my Messianic Jewish brothers and sisters is the promise of the Land. I really would like an answer to this.

[TMSBLU]

Are there not "promises" for believers of Christ that are of Israel that are separate from the "church"?

[rbellamy]

"Churchianity" is an adequate and conceptualizing term to describe luke-warm christians and the lost who deceive themselves to be christian.

[BereaSe]

Excuse me. But is that what a calvinist has to say to anyone who has not surrendered their whole life to Christ? "Be afraid, be afraid"?
Not repent, or turn to Christ? Just be afraid.
Sad.
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[ricoyochanan]

People like to toss that word elect around without understanding its basis. Elect according to the foreknowledge of God, 1 Pet 1:2. God' knows who is going to believe and then elects on that basis. Not on some arbitrary council of the Godhead in eternity past invented by theologians.
Act 16:30  And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 
Act 16:31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Rom 9 never states that that election is about salvation. Another assumption by church theologians.

[amberleigh]

He says His sheep hear his voice. Jews do not hear His voice. I like your title. Often people think of Israel as the nation, but they forget Jacob’s name is changed to Israel.

We Europeans are the remnant. And I believe there is no such thing as ‘Gentile’, it’s a mistranslation of ‘Greek.’

With the studies I’ve done the Israelites dispersed throughout Europe and across the earth and ‘made great nations.’ Genesis 35:11

In Matthew 15:24, Jesus said He only came for ‘the lost sheep of Israel, ’ (Jacob’s descendants), He implied the Canaanite woman was a dog and yet he still helped her daughter who suffered demon-possession.

I believe we’re already in the last days. If you read Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, you’ll know who the Jews today generally are. They will eventually fall to their knees to Jesus.

[TrudeRygh]

Israel is still Gods chosen people, we believers are grafted in to Israel, and God has not forsaken Israel. Romans chapter 9-11
Jesus loves you ❤John 3, 16
You can have true peace in Him:)

[BereaSe]

Ok. Let's see what Jesus said to unbelieving Israel (scribes and pharisees) about his return.

Matthew 23:37-39 NKJV
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more TILL you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

He said TILL here. So this must mean that when Israel as a nation turns to Jesus as their Messiah, then Jesus will come back.

National Israel has a big part in the future.