The 4 Horsemen Of Hard Pokemon Battles

Who is the strongest

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[SMBZYT]

Which fight did you think was the hardest? Or if there’s any fights you think I should’ve mentioned, which fights are they? Let me know in the comments below

[hylianhero]

Platinum Cynthia was a pushover when i ran through it the first time. BDSP Cynthia decided my karma was awful and punished me accordingly

[TofuDispenser]

Volo laughing from the heavens watching one of his descendants give a 11 year old immense no trauma

[snailcakes]

Kieran suffers so much being dlc I feel like 90% of people had way over leveled Pokémon for this fight because of when it takes place

[elmaster]

Cynthia’s the definition of you picked the wrong house fool, while her ancestor make you question your life choices

[windrider]

Red: Is carried by his level advantage and hail.

Cynthia: Full EVs/IVs, a very competent team, and has held items.

Kieran: Like Cynthia, but his team is a bit less competent, and being DLC holds him back a bit.

Volo: A 6v8 essentially, and has the pokemon equivalent to Satan backing him up.

[standardhuman]

volo was the first time ive ever cried because of a video games difficulty. i didnt start bawling, but there were tears. 8 POKEMON. 8 OF THEM. COME THE FUCK ON

[sobotta]

Volo pulling out the Cynthia team (yes arcanine i know) into the double Giratina battle honestly made me have to grind levels to get to 70 ish

[britbongtankie]

I fought Kieran with a team made up entirely of level 100 Pokemon that were EV trained and IV bred, and still lost 3 of them in the battle. I imagine that he must have been an absolute menace had my team been at level 80 like his.

[platinum]

I think that Hyper beam porygon-Z is underrated here. In the competitive scene, this type of set is called a “delete button” where the strategy with it is just to send it out against a slower Pokémon, and you get a guaranteed kill. The chances of anything surviving a STAB, adaptability, hyper beam from a max EV/IV P-Z are very low. It doesn’t really matter that it needs to recharge after, as it’s already picked up a kill and done it’s job, and anything else is just a bonus. Cynthia already has Spiritomb and Milotic as bulky options, so eviolite Porygon 2 wouldn’t make much sense, and tri-attack would leave P-Z vulnerable because it’s significantly less likely to one-shot anything. The main goal in the context of Cynthia’s team is to remove anything that could stop the Garchomp sweep, and if porygon can get a Hyper Beam off on a bulky Fairy that can survive poison jab or a powerful ice type, that’s a huge advantage for her. Recharge moves are also generally better in singles because of pivoting, so the idea of “never have any recharge moves” definitely makes sense if you’re more involved in the VGC format. Singles is all about playing towards a particular win condition, and everything on Cynthia’s team is there to set up for the garchomp sweep, which is why most people do end up wiping to the garchomp and not some random other team member.

[rapidrowlet]

Kieran was running a competitive team with competitive tactics. As someone who refuses to touch competitive Pokemon, I only won that fight by switch baiting Kieran with Ogerpon. And even then, I only had one Pokemon left by the time his Hydrapple went down.

[WyattStone-lxwc]

Ultra necrozma was Cynthia for 3ds players. Crazy stats and if you didn’t cheese your way through it it was a insane fight

[alikaraman-qx]

Red. trust me, that thing is a genetically modified battle machine.

[williamoconnell]

Volo ruined me for a minute, I think that's the first story battle I had to grind for

[julian.B]

Out of the 4 fights, I think the best balanced one is Volo's.
The problem with Red and Cynthia is that most of the time you lose because you are underleveled, and that isn't at all "good difficulty"
While Kieran, since is DLC, YOU are the overleveled one. That kills mostly of the difficulty in a bad way
Levels in Pokemon are a high problem while balancing fights, that's why I think Volo's fight is the best one, under or overleveled.

PD: Cynthia's rematch in BDSP could have a good difficulty, but the problem is that it is a rematch... Mostly of the rematchs in Pokemon have a good difficulty, so I personally think that we should be talking about in-game and not post-game (I know that Volo is technically a post-game fight... But I don't care, Legends Arceus has a extremely low number of battles)

[aidensteinman]

The thing with Red, or at least gold and silver Red, is that most of the time you're not going to be fighting him at an equal level just because of how big of a pain it was leveling up in those specific games. When I fought him, my highest level Pokemon, my starter was barely at level 65, and I only won because I had stocked up on revives and heals.

[Mojaveknight]

I know exactly why Red doesn't use earthquake!

[UltimatePhantasm]

Red doesn't use Earthquake because HE'S ON TOP OF A F**KING MOUNTAIN
...but seriously though, just bring something that _does_ and his pikachu is toast

also I feel like Kieran's movesets are so subpar is because he's supposed to be actually somewhat beatable lmao

[CaptainObliviousV]

Red is carried hard by a massive level spike from Gen 2’s poor scaling mixed with permanent Hail. A good electric type or something with bolt-beam coverage absolutely wrecks him.

I never really understood why people feared Cynthia for a long time, I never had any trouble with her and beat her first try in any game she appeared in on my first play throughs. And then BDSP happened… Granted, they went balls to the wall with the league’s difficulty so it’s understandable for anyone to struggle, but still, she arguably puts some smogon sweats to shame.

Volo is a hard fight even if you bring level 100 legendaries to the battle. It’s less so about team composition and more so about game mechanics. Volo’s battle is like a game of chess, pieces being taken every turn, and then all of a sudden Volo uses a style or gets a lucky crit and a chainsaw goes flying through the chess board.

Kieran is surprisingly straight forward. No environmental gimmicks mixed with poor game design, no balls to the wall competitive strats, no Uno Reverses, just your standard fair with a bit more sauce to it. He’s arguably the perfect example of what a good end game battle should be, tough but nothing ludicrous.




Personally, none of them compare to Eri though lol. That girl kicked my ass 10 times and threw the match out of pity on the 11th. Even after I EV & IV trained my team she was still thrashing me. Hardest fight I’ve ever dealt with in the whole series.

[cassityesuban]

Kieran is a forced Champion. He's like if Disney's trauma bragging became a person, All bark no bite