IT HAS STARTED! The Car Market CRASH of 2025?

The car market is shifting fast. Auto CEOs are stepping down, inventories are building up, and loan delinquencies are rising. Stellantis, Ford, and Volkswagen are facing major challenges, and monthly payments are reaching record highs.

This isn’t just hype — the data paints a concerning picture.

[danielgant]

I think the problem is so obvious. The car companies have allowed their prices to get so high that the average person can no longer afford them. Companies need the masses to stay in business, but when only a small fraction can afford them, it’s going to come back to haunt them.

[DavidDartsch]

Poor quality and high prices and they don’t understand why they are failing? Make reliable small cars again.

[ProfessorEggz-ki]

If they made a new car with a metal ignition key, crank down windows, no air conditioning, a bench seat and a payment of less than $150 a month I might buy one. Gross over pricing, atrocious unreliability, unwanted technology and other extraneous complexity have removed me from the car market forever. I buy only cheap used cars and they are even getting hard to find. They have no one to blame but themselves. They made their bed and can now lay down in it.

[jamescarlson]

Buying directly from the manufacturer eliminating the expensive frustrating dealer middle man would be a big step in solving this issue.

[Kevriyal]

You have to be out of your mind to let your cars sit for 460 days. It's called lower the price... Proof they will so absolutely anything to screw over the consumer, even if it means self destruction.

[NoMoReBoTz]

Still rocking my 2000 CRV at 176k miles

[saynotodrugs]

Buy used cars and screw kelly blue book and car dealerships. Buy private. Let them all go out of business.

[alone]

If these manufacturers would stop trying to screw over the people it wouldn't be like this. You don't have to make record profits off of struggling people. If they wanna charge 50k for a civic or Carola, They can EAT that loss! I hope some of these brands just go out of business! You can still make a profit without ripping folks off.

[MrDanjg]

Let's not bail them out this time.

[ak]

Car manufacturers have priced themselves out of the market. They're so expensive now that even people making well above median income can't come close to affording one.

And why are so many cars made for short people. I'm only 6'1" . Back in the 80's and 90:s I got into almost every car with no problem and had plenty of room. Now? I feel like I'm 6'6" no headroom . No legroom. Don't even talk to !e about the back seat!

[Harlemworldboy]

I rather put $5k in my old Honda than buy a new over priced car at this point.

[ShirleySlager]

I bought my Toyota for $7, 300.00. I wouldn't think of paying $25, 000.00 or more for those stupid high-priced cars. This is the best car I have ever owned.

[stevenross]

Prices are set by the ceo and the board of directors. They want more profits. Employees do not set prices.

[keswick]

Another day another "sky is falling" crash warning. Broken clocks are right twice a day

[ABC-uh]

I have been a Toyota customer for 30 years until now... I bought a Suburu outback in 2025 as the Toyota product just didn't do it for me... for a lot less money, I got the same/or more car from Suburu.

[JeredtheShy]

I finally got smart and went looking for the Fed's data on the situation, which makes it clear that carmakers have been cutting back on inventory sharply and are not sitting on a bunch of unsold stuff. This has been going on for years. They aren't under any sort of pressure. It looks like Stellantis is finally seeing the failure it's worked so hard to earn, but that's just them. The price crash you want isn't coming, especially not on desirable models. I think well-off retired boomers are propping the market up nicely, somebody is buying this crap, just not you. But YouTubers keep feeding you what you want to hear and turning your time into their money.

[jonathantaylor]

Production has mostly recovered so dealer lots are pretty full. But that doesn't mean units aren't selling. Ford F-series volume sales were up 5%. RAM sales are down but they still sell 90, 000 trucks per quarter. This is why we are not seeing manufacture rebates. If you are consistently selling 90K units per quarter it stands to reason you will sell 90, 000 units next quarter. If you start to to offer rebates that rebate will apply to the stock you were going to sell anyway at current, higher prices. A 5, 000 rebate on 90, 0000 trucks is 450 million dollars.. Do we really think RAM would see enough of a sales volume increase from a 5K rebate to offset 450 million dollar "loss"? No way.

[bobdobalina]

Still waiting
I was looking at a 2016 X, nice, well kept, decent mileage. Guy demanded $70k.
It's been for sale for several months. Seller has slowly come down, mileage has gone up.
It was $54 for several weeks, now it's $56. Book value at "Retail" has it at $44-43, and wholesale for $37-38.
USED Pricing has been INSANE for the last Several Years.
It's a 2016. It's 9 years old now, almost 10. (NEW Model Vehicles production starts in July fyi). 100k+ miles. NEW was maybe mid 50s. Today, the same X vehicle NEW is 100K plus.
INSANE.
I have been waiting for this BUBBLE for the last 12 to 18 months.
It's a sign of the coming Economic and Financial Collapse.
EVERYONE that bought in, that's Tens and Tens of MILLIONS, have been treading water for the last few years. The ONLY reason they have stayed afloat is the LOW INTEREST rates.
Once they start to go under, their TOYS go up for sale first. Fast Cars. BIG SUVs. Trailers. Boats. Motorcycles etc.
The SMRT ones will attempt to get out early to Maximize and Capitalize on the NEW LOWER Prices.
Once that starts, more get Desperate, see Declining Prices and will put theirs up for sale to try to CASH in.
This will only cause a GLUT and ever increasing Inventory across all markets.
This will DRIVE Down Prices, as those more Desperate than others will be FORCED to continually lower their Pricing to stay out in front of the ever increasing pack of sellers in order to dump their TOY.
From there, its their every day driver, and the downsizing of vehicles to something cheaper just to get buy and free up some cash or get rid of the BIG payments.
When that INEVITABLY FAILS, it will be their housing that has to go in order to prevent it's LOSS to the Bank or Mortgage Company.
You thought the Housing Bubble in 2008ish was Bad?
It'll get worse.

[tylermac]

IMO the problem is twofold
1)Hi tech/Luxury
----Car makers want to be the fancy and high status. Hence, more features and gizmos, more tech and fuel efficiency.
----All of those things take away from reliability, ease of repair and raise the purchase price.
2)Government requirements push automakers ever further in this direction.
---Ex. MPG mandates and manufacturing penalties on SUVS/Trucks make for absurd market distortions.

[ShingleSlingers]

This has been going on for over a year now