What Is Your Opinion on Catholic Traditionalism? — Bishop Barron on Vatican II

Friends, I'm a traditionalist—I stand with Christian revelation and the entirety of the Church’s teaching, from the Council of Jerusalem through Nicaea, Chalcedon, and Trent. Since the Church’s tradition includes the Second Vatican Council, it's therefore impossible to repudiate Vatican II and claim to be a faithful traditionalist. There's nothing traditional about rejecting an ecumenical council. Watch this video for more:

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[inhocsigno]

the problem here bishop, is we don't see this church resisting much of what it's supposed to resist, while we see it absorb much of the trash it was supposed to leave outside

[joycemackin]

God bless Archbishop Lebreve and the SSPX

[cittiavaticano]

i think the issue that needs to b spoken on are the things that turns out, are things in vatican 2, a pastoral council, we must resist.

[paulpicchietti]

I'm sorry. The spirit of Vatican 2 . What is it? Is that what you're talking about?

[monsieurritrut]

Just make sure the Catholic Church doesn't go the same way as the Anglican Church, the Anglican Church is like a neutered lion and has no backbone whatsoever.

[Aanonymous]

When you said you are Traditionalist. Thank you God! Becuase this time is getting worse, just confusing.

[johnbitonti]

Bishop Barron, YOU DO NOT KNOW NEWMAN OR THE THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE!!

[JoseMoreno-vdvj]

I would love our bishops to offer the traditional mass in every catholic parish. Allow The Church to have a choice.

[Mr._Anderpson]

I'm no theologian. My fields are biology & mathematics, specifically ecology & surveying. What can be said is that sometimes what looks to be good & is taken in by an animal is actually harmful. Many mutations & adaptations are not beneficial in the long-term development of a species. Upon this rock will I build my church, not upon shifting sands which move according to cultural winds.

Christ said you'll know a tree by the fruit it bears. So, how is attendance & active participation in the works of the Church progressing post-Vat2? Are churches & parishes growing or shrinking? Are the people more fervent in their faith & reverent in the Mass, or less? By no means is my example typical, but what I find on Catholic dating sites is an "a la carte" approach to Catholicism. People have decided to pick & choose the parts of the faith they find appealing. Don't like the Church's teaching on pre-marital sex, birth control, or the sanctity of life? No problem, just choose not to accept it. Isn't that the root of the word heresy, to choose?

[simplycj]

At 57 years old I recently discovered the Latin Mass. Never in all my life have I experienced such beauty, depth, and reverence in the Mass. I’ve also noticed that compared to parishes that only offer the NO Mass, the Latin Mass parishes are thriving, full of young people, both single and married with families. It’s beautiful to witness. It’s clear to me that something went wrong in the Church after Vatican 2. Perhaps it should be revisited and the errors/confusion corrected.

[JL-jcwb]

Bishop Barron, could you give an example of the Church “resisting what it must”? Given the enormous number of lay and ordained Catholics who support gay marriage, abortion, contraception, and other things embraced by our current culture, what would this resistance look like? And to whom should we look for any sort of outward manifestations of resistance? Is it enough for us to merely resist these things on a personal (introspective) level, or is there some way for us to actually build a culture of resistance within our Church which will articulate said resistance to the culture at large?
I appreciate your thoughts and greater clarification on this important matter.

[Catholic]

They should bring back communion rail, in my church in Fontana CA St Joseph, the Eucharist fell down, I was shock. They don't have the Communion-plate there. Now I go the the TLM in Ontario California. I love it there peoples show more Reverend for God. Lots of peoples no longer believe that Jesus is there.

[stevenhotho]

oh, yes, the church today is certainly flexible. now, the part about resisting culture, i don't know; doesn't seem to me that it resists very much.

[clementbretanno]

I think the Church should establish the culture and not on the other way around to adapt with the environmet or culture of the world..

[dekafer]

I understand Bishop Barron's defences of Vatican II, but the plain and simple (and perhaps tragic) truth is that the modern features of the current Catholic Church is what made me seek out the Eastern Orthodox church as a replacement. And I never would have needed to switch churches had the Catholic Church kept the Latin rites as its default. In the end, there was no beauty within the Vatican II rites.

[thecatholicman]

A traditional Catholic interprets Vatican II in light of all of Tradition.

Bishop Barron interprets all of Tradition in light of Vatican II.

[Dabhach]

Perhaps, bishop, you need to do a little more resisting at the bishops' conferences.

[anonosaurus]

Many things can be said about the Mass of Paul VI for example, but one thing that cannot be said about it is that it is an organic development of it's liturgical predecessor. From the rites of consecration, to the liturgical language, to the words of the 1970 edition of the Missal, it is not consistent with what came before it. This is precisely the problem that Catholic traditionalists have with Vatican II as a whole.

[TheThingIs]

Can one call oneself a traditionalist and not speak out against homosexuality and abortion?

[alanmunoz]

We don’t think v2 is illegitimate, we just think it’s flawed