I screwed up.

My "Don't Contribute To Open Souce" video had impact I never would have imagined - especially within the Indian software developer community. I felt obligated to talk about it one last time.

Shoutout to all the awesome creators, developers, and contributors who are working hard to keep open source alive 🫡

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S/O Ph4se0n3 for the awesome edit 🙏

[NoobGaming-xnbe]

I am an Indian developer and I think you didn't screw up in fact you started a conversation and debate which less popular developers like us always wanted to start! and I am glad that it happened,

[EmperorFool]

The problem stems from not explaining that "contributing" does not mean "opening a PR" but rather understanding the repo and submitting valuable PRs, preferably after making sure your change will be welcome. As someone said in a Twitter reply, if I saw PRs like this from a prospective interviewee, I'd toss their resume immediately.

[xn--ba]

I'm a final year CS student. While I think I'm not completely beginner, so far the open source contribution I've done is just a single issue report to a small repo with less than 1k stars. Even then I carefully write my issue, the expected behaviour, and the way to reproduce it.

[spartanatreyu]

Youtube NEEDS a way to add text annotations over a part of a video again.

[peterdecroos]

It’s true that Indian developers have a bit of a reputation. It comes down to the fact that India is a place where competition to survive is INTENSE. People will pickup anything to make a living which mean s a lot of people who have no business coding are doing so. I’ve personally performed cleanup duties reaching projects that were originally created by offshored Indian teams. That does not mean all Indian developers are bad. For those very same projects I rescued, I found out the rate of pay for those Indian developers were around 10-12 dollars an hour. Yea of course you’re not getting the cream of the crop with that kind of competitive salary! I have an Indian Devops guy at my company and he’s fantastic. The trick is that we pay him a good salary that would allow him to be comfortable in any country.

TLDR: you pay bananas and you’ll only hire monkeys. Thats true wherever you hire from

[Q-Ball.]

Shadowing the project is actually the move

[TheAkiller]

This is part to blame indian and south east asian education system in general. since childhood we are never taught to find out the reason why we need to do things, we are told to do X to get a job and get money, we are forced to go to tutors who will tell you what to do not why you should do it. Working with the international community with our shitty education system and cultural norms is a difficult transition to a lot of us. but that is no excuse, I am glad these kinds of things gets discussed and help us to grow.

[shs]

Harkirat and Hitesh are one of the few genuine developers who tend to be youtubers. So it makes sense.

[kaustabhchakraborty]

From India, this perception of using open source as a way to get good jobs is actually being promoted for a long time in the Indian space. A lot of educators are listing contribution to open source as a way to get Jobs in product based teach giants like Amazon and Google, especially to the engineering just passing out from not so good colleges. Those guys are the actual problems. Calling those guys might change the situation.

[procrastinateadda]

Since "Indian" was not mentioned in last video, I feel this fact has more context for this video - Open Source Contribution(Genuine) do help u land a job or at least have a good reputation if put in resume in India. Many startups literally ask for Open Source contributions in there JD.

[AsgerJon]

Those who actually read the pinned comments are those whose contributions are least likely to be trash

[unlck]

I feel for the indian community, they weren't looked kindly (to say the least) for a long while, and they really stepped up this game. Like a lot. This situation hurts all that effort and you can see their earnest will to correct it. <3 for my indian colleagues from Argentina.

[ShaharHarshuv]

The fact that people just blindly followed the tutorial to create a meaningless change is hillarious

[wlockuz]

The author of Apna College is an Ex-Microsoft engineer but didn't have the foresight to create a demo repo which is astounding. She could've actually taught her audience more about the PR workflow if she owned the repo, this is what almost everyone does. I think Fireship did this the best with his Git/Github video!

Worst part is that she unintentionally damaged the reputation of people trying to learn Git/Github and her community in general.

Hope she takes responsibility and does the right thing asap.

[coderamrin]

Man!
Spamming these open-source projects is a crime these developer with their busy schedule have to deal with all this.
This has to be stopped.
btw you did a good job here. Thanks for that.

Don’t take the time to reply to YT videos very often, but I really felt the need to express that to me that video about open-source was actually really really helpful. As per usual with Theo’s videos. So thank you Theo; I appreciate your videos a ton! ❤

[codingtranquility]

I thought your open source video hit the nail on the head, and was really good advice for new developers. Being someone who is trying to break into the industry, I had the goal of wanting to contribute to open source, as it was hailed as one of the best ways to get a job in my bootcamp. But I quickly realized like ... wtf am I going to contribute? My skillset was pretty limited at the time to front end in react, and even then it was anything that anyone with 6 months - 1 year experience could do. Then I saw the PR hell that was being pushed by another online bootcamp from twitch, as part of hacktoberfest ... and focussed my energy on just making projects instead of feeling the need to contribute pointless PR's, and instead get comfortable with submitting issues or contributing to discussions with technology I use, to get a better understanding of them. You and many others said it best and I'll paraphrase cause I don't remember the exact wording but "open source is not for finding your first job, but for finding the job you want".

[DeepakGautamX]

4:46 this is the example of taking advantage of current trends going on YouTube for views and reach. She knows what she is doing plus she also have done little bit cover up in the video to tackle the hates.

[devagr]

Love that their response is deleting their twitter accounts and not at all acknowledging the issue at hand and just continuing normally without taking any real steps to rectify it

[zuma]

I must say you handled this excellently. Simultaneously helping Apna improve her content (because whilst I agree she should feel bad, I'm sure she wasn't trying to cause big issues), and dispelling terrible racists. Well done, keep up the good work, and fuck racists.