Was Brian Jones ERASED From The Rolling Stones?

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Brian Jones’ Death by Misadventure. Why Did The Rolling Stones Fire Brian Jones and what events lead up to his untimely death in 1969 at the age of 27? This is the tragic story of a giant talent who started off with the same traditional English upbringing as his counterpart Mick Jagger, they cross paths, begin their journey together, yet at some point take different turns and their lives couldn’t turn out more different. However, there are betrayals and deceptions along the way that come into play that are often overlooked.

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Brian Jones era Stones is my favorite. Aftermath is a masterpiece.

arronsturgeon
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The Brian Jones era was actually the Andrew Loog Oldham era, when the producer forced the Stones to sound less bluesy and more pop to emulate the Beatles success

thisisobviouslynotmyrealname
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This is a great video about Brian Jones. I read Kieth Richards book and definitely thought after Brian created the group they were trying to push him out. And Mick Jagger and Keith Richards writing all the songs Brian Jones must have been devasted. I read nothing but contempt for him in that book and Kieth said that all Brian wanted was fame and to mix with the famous, not acknowledging anything about his talent. And when he drowned it seemed Kieth couldn't care a less. However i do love The Rolling Stones music. Great doc. Keep up with them i love this era.

juliarobinson
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This is a great mini doc. I saw a lot of rare gems such as Bill Wyman's interview and Jim Morrison's poem for Brian. I really enjoyed this. It was different from all of the other Brian Jones documentaries that I have seen here on YouTube. Thank you for sharing 😁💖🎶

djinnmagik
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The early Rolling Stones were the real Rolling Stones ❤❤❤❤❤❤

lillyk
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This is a very good analysis of the Brian Jones era--the era of my teenage years. Of course, along with my love of the Stones, I was a massive fan of The Beatles, who get most of the press for experimentation and 'changing music'. But Brian Jones was a master of experimentation and introducing different instruments into the world of popular music. It must have been soul destroying realising that he was not a creative songwriter. So not only did he lose control of being the founder member and leader of the band, but he also lost control of the direction that the Jagger/Richards songs steered the band.

Onda-vt
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*“The band is really an amalgamation of two bands. The one being an R&B band I formed about a year ago, and the other being a group run by Mick and Keith in S.E. London. I was introduced to Keith and we decided to pool our resources, so with Stu from my band, and Mick from Keith’s we became the nucleus of the ‘Stones.’”* ----Brian Jones 1963
Brian did NOT start the Stones. He asked Keith if he and Ian could join Keith's band and Keith agreed.

williardbillmore
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Big Stones fan especially the Jones era. Enjoyed your documentary👍

jesper
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Brian Jones has never been erased from the Stones history, good documentary with an untrue title.

TeleCaster
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The song by Muddy Waters was Mannish Boy which had the lyric “I’m a rollin’n stone”.

lharr
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Well done, a piece on Human frailty & creativity. Three Cheers to the Artistry of Brian’s years. .

LisaDunleavy-qfwk
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Bi-polar with addictions was difficult to treat back in the 60s.

arricammarques
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06:52 This is a key element because although Brian was the natural leader of the band, its original member and by far its most talented musician, as stated in the video, Oldham assigned Jagger and Richards to the task of writing songs. What the hell?? It's a completely counter-intuitive decision! Brian wasn't initially against the Stones writing their own songs either, as it is sometimes insinuated. He actually suggested that the band could write and compose their material together, using a collective pen name. But the idea was turned down... Then Bill Wyman explained years later that the first Jagger-Richard pieces were mediocre and wouldn't have made it without Brian's touch. Even George Harrison who was a good friend of his said that one day, while Brian was messing around with his sitar, George basically saw him put together the first notes of Paint It Black, of course before it was ever composed. Yet he never was credited for it and neither for any creation that had to do with the Rolling Stones. As for his mishaps, of course dealing with international fame while suffering from the rejection of your fellow band mates at the same time must be pretty difficult. But there also discrepancies can be found in the description of his personality, such as when French model Zouzou who was his girlfriend for a while, talks about him. Some describe quite a different character than the narcissistic hedonist usually portrayed. He might rather have been a victim of group-bullying, who awkwardly tried to counter the manipulations he suffered. There was definitely a decades old smear campaign against him which makes me think he might not have been the raving maniac they've depicted time and again.
Anyway, it was a nice video that provides a different view of him. I would definitely encourage the author to expand on the subject and even dig deeper. For instance, the first question remains: why was he not asked to compose from the start?

dalesco
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There's so much talk about the 27 club with Hendrix, Morrison and Joplin. People forget to mention Brian Jones.

Jay-n
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It wasn’t personal Brian got the Axe, It was business.
Brian kept getting arrested with drug charges and lost his ability to travel abroad as he lost his Visa.
Keith and Mick said Brian seemed disenchanted about the direction the band we’re heading.
Brian would show up at the recording studio and would be High off his face.
He became unreliable as he wasn’t up to par as far as contributing anything meaningful to the new songs written.
Another issue that never set well with Charlie, Bill, Mick and Keith is Brian physically beat his ladies.
Keith and Mick were getting ready to travel to the U.S. to support a new album.
They understood Brian could not travel and it was a career fact they needed to leave the UK.
Simple business decision, your fired pal.

tommeredith
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"Hyde Park was the funeral. And the bit about burying and shovels and all that, it's not that important to me. That was his funeral." Thanks for including this. People are always asking why Keith wasn't at the funeral, I figured that was why.

TheaterPup
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Instead of letting him go, they should have handled it the way the Beach Boys did when Brian Wilson became unable to travel and perform.

dorian
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They slowly pushed him to one side, they snatched his girlfriend from under his nose and then, to top it off, they fired him. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

danielesbordone
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Photo at 12:15 is Brian and Suki Poitier and not Anita.

BigSky
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Ah blue turns to grey always one of my top ones back in the day

SullyDunn