Why knowing morality doesn’t explain morality

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#Morality #Relativism #Evil

[DruPetty]

So, the young man is holding the standard of all humanity collectively above humanity. Loved Frank's answer.

[AD-endq]

YOU CANNOT DERIVE OBJECTIVITY FROM SUBJECTIVITY...

[jsphfalcon]

The video starts with "I believe." That's where people differ

[Srman]

There is an eternal creator outside space and time. He has rules on everlasting life.

[samuelhunter]

Here's the problem with this guy's interpretation
"All human beings suffer, and suffering is undesirable".
Problem is, people have different definitions of what it means to suffer. There might be a common ground, but that still leaves the question of "Why should I care about the suffering of others?"
Plus, suffering can be productive if channelled in a certain manner, but that's just beside the point
Then he goes on to say that human ethics can be used as a standard for objective morality. Problem there is
1)Human ethics are subject to change, and therefore cannot be objective
2)Human ethics can be dismissed as human inventions, like fables or ideas ready to be discarded
3)Human ethics are subject to emotions and opinions ie subjective.
Studying human actions and tendency will not produce a standard HIGHER than human values, which by definition are not objective

[johnmartin]

"I'm not presupposing that all suffering is bad. I am observing that everyone acts as if his suffering were bad."- Sharp of the young fellow to make the distinction there. Good thinking.

[christophermccann]

Killed it. Great question from the student and great, patient answer from Frank.

[icandoallthings]

Human ethics can’t make objective morality

[John-lmrs]

Just more excuses for people to try and reject their Creator. Nothing new.

[BerishaFatian]

"You couldn't read a book, unless someone wrote it". And scientists study the universe and say there is no creator.

[unastamus]

My hat is off to Frank, he patiently cast _alot_ of pearls..!

[christtheonlyhope]

Humanity is corrupted by sin. We can't come up with morality apart from God.

[MAC...]

Thanks for keeping it real Frank.
Much blessings to you. 🙏

[allegory]

I drove a Ford to the conference tonight, and another drove a Toyota. Looks like we have the free will question answered.

[Keesha_Hardy]

How can a person extrapolate morality or ethics from humanity *as a whole* if they never knew, know, or will know all the humans that have existed, are existing and will ever exist?

That doesn't make sense.

[mtpta]

Exactly.God Bless you Frank.Another great and informational video.

[elizabethshaw]

My suffering over a very long protracted time has brought me more joy than I would have known otherwise. It brought me closer to my Lord it brought me into a deeper relationship with God so that I could feel that Joy it is something far beyond happiness. Even though I am in remarkable pain around the clock that doesn't relent and I use a wheelchair now when I was a ballerina. Being a suffering human being has brought me closer to God and to experience a deep Joy that most other people don't ever get to. I have also been provided great comfort by God and I intern love him with all of my heart and soul. :-)

[drumrnva]

I like the golden rule. It has 3 elements: you, me, and how we treat each other. It's implied in the rule that we have equal rights to decent treatment, and equal responsibility to treat others decently. And the benefits of treating each other with respect are realized in the real, observable, secular world.

[mikeramos]

Suffering itself isn’t a grounding for morality, it’s just a feeling. People may prefer not to feel suffering, but that says nothing on wether it should happen or not.

[johnnyappleseed]

This kid just refuses to consider what he doesn't want to believe.
Funny thing is, by default, he would have to believe in evolution, which seems to make no allowance for "society building" where the weak are protected.
Besides, the old maxim "One man's loss is another man's gain, one man's pleasure is another man's pain" also neatly explains away his theory of "morality" being objectively possible.