Propane Bottle Ban, RV Lemon Law Change, Hurricane Destruction, New Largest Truckstop

On this episode, topics include the devastating impact of Hurricane Helene in the Southeast, significant changes to California's lemon laws for RV owners, a new ban on single-use propane canisters in California, and increased camping fees in Oregon. Plus, find out about the upcoming world's largest truck stop in Illinois.

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00:00 Introduction
00:06 Hurricane Helene's Devastation
00:52 Sponsor Message: RV Mattress
02:18 California's New Lemon Law for RVs
06:41 California's Propane Cylinder Ban
08:21 Oregon's New Camping Fees
09:49 The World's Largest Truck Stop
10:44 Conclusion

[ellisroy]

This is why each and every bill needs to be voted on separately not mixed

[jdpapillion]

I am in tears as I watch footage of Mountain Stream RV park. We stopped there on our way back from Mt Mitchell as I had it saved on my map to check out for next trip to Blue Ridge Pkw. Such a nice park with sites on the large creek that wound down Rt 80. Most siteshad newer decks over the creek. So inviting. To know we were there just a month ago talking to staff and looking forward to Fall leaf peeping in the Blue Ridge area. My heart breaks for everyone.
Please let us know more and what the RV community can do to help. This is so devastating.

[barbshubert]

Thank you for the update on the propane.

[Dav-S]

California and Washington are my the list of NO GO states. Oregon is working hard to make that list.

[kevinhorne]

Good move on the tanks - should have been done years ago.

I fail to understand why states are charging more for out of state visitors. They spend millions trying to boost tourism but then “tax” people when they visit. I know it’s a way to get some additional revenue from people who have limited choices for paying it but I still think it’s counter to their tourism goals.

As for lemon law - sounds very sneaky how it was implemented. As you said - major RV repairs in 30 days is kinda unheard of, unfortunately.

[rogerhodgkinson]

I can’t recommend getting a small propane tank highly enough. The disposal bottles are $5 at Walmart. Thats for 1 pound of propane Most of the cost is the container. Propane is running $2.36 a gallon. Thats equivalent of 4 1 pound tanks. I have a 10 pound. I can fill it for around $7. I calculated and I recover all my cost for the tank etc after the first fill. If you camp a lot or use a lot of the disposables you’ll save a fortune. You can add quick connects and a distribution post and run everything on it. Great investment. No regrets at all.

[sherriweber]

Thank you Jason for this information on the new Lemon law in California. That’s sad about the hurricane. Thank you for mentioning California banning the propane canisters. And Oregon’s new camping fees. Thank you Jason for the information. I appreciate it.

[johnelledge]

Not quite understanding the one time use on the green bottles. You can refill those ones too I have done it myself for years.

[DrGaryGreen]

When I was a student at Palmer, we had a clinic at Walcott and it was always a great experience to go there. I see Palmer no longer has the clinic there and it's a private practice. Feel sorry for the students missing out.

[travisadams]

Didn't know they made refillable 1lb propane bottles. Good to know

[rogerhodgkinson]

One more thing. Propane doesn’t go bad. So if you don’t use it right away no problem.

[mgysgtk]

First time in two years, i had to reduce a 50amp to run my 30amp. The pedestal 30amp was very loose. Dangerous loose. Lucky i had a 50 to 30 amp reducer. First time in two years.

[dracoflame]

For the refillable propane tanks. 1 do not use a hose, the oils can leak out of the hose and into your cylinder when refilling causeing a clog.
2 any refill adapter that has a guage is useless. Propane either has pressure or it doesn't. Its liquid until the pressure is reduced and evaporats as pressure allows which means the pressure is constant and cant measure how full a canister is by a guage. You have to weigh them to tell.

[Trail_Trash]

I've been a user of those 1lb bottles but have felt guilty for the waste and actually glad they will be banned. I have a small 5lb refillable bottle but sometimes it's easier to have a few 1lbs on hand if I'm too lazy to get the 5 filled.

[resurrectiongarage]

I use the Coleman bottles for my torch, sometimes my lantern and I’ll use them on my stove for quick trips but most of the time my camping gear and my buddy heater I use in my deer blind is run off a 20lb cylinder, it’s so much cheaper in the long run. Here’s the workaround though, hardware stores are most likely still going to be selling those skinny propane bottles for torches, just make sure you don’t use the mapp gas ones

[scottgorman]

I have been using a 5 lb can since 1987. On a stove its last (seems like) months.

[mwaynem]

Oregon state parks are very competitive. They are also generally well maintained. The increase doesn't come as a surprise. They will still be some of the least expensive camp grounds in Oregon.

[HAHA.GoodMeme]

gotta love the regressive taxation of those new fee increases.

[larrygray]

The big problem with LP is where do you store them that is ventilated? All canisters, even the small ones, have warning requirement to keep in ventilated area. On many Class B and Class C when they go total electric, it eliminates the LP tank that is mounted in a ventilated (open - no floor) area. Any external storage with a floor and all internal storage cabinets are not ventilated.

[KylesRV]

The bill will actually help, attorneys get wealthy. There is no other reason for this except helping scumbag attorneys.