Zizek Challenges Peterson: 'Set Your House in Order Before You Change the World?'

[iwouldprefernotto]

If you want to get Zizek's 'I WOULD PREFER NOT TO' t-shirt you can do so here:

[MaJinViDz]

I remember when this debate first happened, I looked at the comment section and saw "Kermit the Frog v.s Donald Duck" and haven't been the same since

[jacobrudniski]

I have never seen someone so upset about being told to clean his room

[AndersonSilva-zckf]

His voice tricks my brain into thinking I'm being sprayed with water

[IvoMaropo]

Please, let me break it down to you:

1) Zizek is NOT saying one should let one's house untidy, but simply that we can have it both ways: not just set our house in order, but ALSO try to change the world in the meantime. They should not be mutually exclusive things. Zizek's house itself is meticulously tidy (just look at his VICE interview). The argument that Zizek is just trying to justify his own mess at his house is not only a nonsense, but childish;

2) Zizek is just saying that real change does not begin with personal responsibility (like Gandhi thought with his famous "be yourself the change you want to see in the world"), but by addressing the way society itself reproduces itself. Individual responsibility, for Zizek, is an ideological trick whose ultimate aim is precisely to AVOID radical change, a false bargain. His example of ecology goes in the same direction: the more we are told we are personally responsible for ecological catastrophies, the less mega changes in the way the system reproduces itself are made.

You're welcome. :)

[joshlucas]

Zizek sounds like he’s talking through dimensions

[ultimatedoomer]

His accent is so strong that the subtitles are in another language

[outofranger]

"and so on and so on" vs "roughly speaking"

[vinilzord]

That's actually a healthy debate. Kudos to both parties. I wish people were able to do this wholeheartedly with the intent of gathering more life experience and learn a thing or two.

[adilhameed]

I can imagine young zizek saying this when his mother tells him to clean his room lol

[RebisRam]

The thumbnail for this video was made with the pure and obvious intention of misrepresenting the discussion between Peterson and Zizek. Both individuals displayed nothing but patience, focus, and respect for one another.

[gitfiddler]

This guy's got built in reverb and delay/echo.

[sleepybraincells]

7:04 "If you take a personal problem seriously enough, you will simultaneously solve a social problem." - Carl Jung

[wo]

I wish this debate had happened in 2020 (i.e. without that goddamn audience).

[bestofseinfeldclips]

Peterson and Zizek showed ultimate professionalism during this debate. Both were incredibly respectful even in spite of the 7th grade audience members repeated sophomoric interruptions.

[sartreplagiarizedmyunborns]

Zizek says "why must we correct ourselves before we criticize the world, if the reason why we're a way is the world"? And my answer is, because the world isn't the reason. If you think that you are at the mercy of the world, then you have no reason to be good. Anything that happens to you is arbitrary and you have no control over it. Which is simply not true. There is such a thing as will. So don't be shit if you're gonna trashtalk the toilet. Be water.

[rahulbalan]

Mom : Clean your room.
Me: But the society...

[TheALLVEGAS]

Zizek wipes his nose exactly 57 times in this 10 minute clip

[mrniceguy]

I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say that the guy in the middle is much dryer on his left side.

[Jaceftp]

He has a point. It crossed my mind too. "be what you want to see in the world" is not easy when the worlds full of clowns.