Rewarding or Unrewarding? - The Shadowlands Gearing Experience

Gear has been a pretty hot topic in the Shadowlands that will get better over time, but will it be enough?
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[Sodacacik]

pugging mythics drains your sanity when you get 35 anima after 5+ runs.

[Structureel]

What continues to baffle me is that the devs have had 16 years of experience with the player base and they still can't figure out what the sweet spot for gameplay or loot is. Every xpac it's change for change's sake.

[TheUmbrex]

I don't get how they are so adamant about draining the game of fun so o.o1% of the player base will have to spend 3 days longer for a world first

[whaswag]

what blows my mind is the backward system, how are we suppose to do higher keys if we don't even get gear from lower keys.

[mathias]

I think clearing Torghast should get a spot in the vault where the ilvl of the reward scaled with the floor you'd cleared. I don't mind if it's lower ilvl than other stuff, it would still give some sort of "single player progression" or progression outside of m+ and raiding, and it would make Torghast feel more rewarding.

[sinicall]

really really wish they brought the badge system from WotLK back, that feeling of "damn didnt get my drop but i can at least get this from the vendor" helps ease the terrible gear drop droughts that you will just mathematically run into at some point.

[ghostlygardener]

They need a PvE "conquest" vendor, aka valor.

[hopeyj]

M+ needs a badges of justice system. It just feels so unrewarding in its current state

[pobopower]

They didnt want me to be done with my character.
Ironic since I now feel done with my character.

[travis]

the good: i get drops all the time, the bad: the drops are usually anima and when they're not they're shoulders

[madman]

I did two entire lockouts of castle nathria without getting anything. Really feeling rewarded right now!

[TheHollywoodHino]

Its crazy to me as someone who loved Mythic + this never getting any drops. I have to really keep to pushing myself to keep doing something so unrewarding

[dilloncoello]

The worst part about it is when you get a piece you DON'T need, because you know it's going to be a long time before you actually get an upgrade.

[Whit_TigR]

When a mythic raider that by default swims in loot says there's gearing deficit you can only imagine how really bad is it at the bottom end

[solarslacker]

Justice and Valor from Cataclysm need to make a comeback!

[ashtoncraine]

My problem with gearing comes from other players mostly. When I try to pug a raid or M+ people who see my 192 gear level turn me down, which is reasonable. But when I do finally get into a group after 15 minutes of applying and get most raid bosses down or several M+ runs finished and don’t even move up an item level, it isn’t helping my chances of getting more groups. I get denied from groups because they want someone already 200ilvl and the groups I do manage to land I get no loot to improve my further odds. And it’s just a downward spiral.

[uncleflansy]

Yet another reason Wrath is so highly regarded. Gearing felt great, and you never felt like you were wasting your time, even if all you did was heroic dungeons.

[ChristopherCDaniels]

I’d like to see a token system. Get to the end of M+ get a piece of gear? Great, no token. No drop? Okay, here is a token. Currency for gear/weapon purchases.

[WatchMeLearnIt]

Getting +35 anima over and over and then getting the gear drop THAT YOU DONT NEED.

That causes insanity real fast.

[chilimaggaming]

I don't think anyone actually asked for less loot per source, they just wanted fewer sources. I'm a non-raider and thus didn't have an issue with titan forging, but I understand why it needed to go away. It feels like a large divide between the "haves" and "have nots." If you have a guild and/or friends to play with, you are set and the world is your oyster. If you are in a dead guild and play mostly solo, there is very little for you to do other than wait for your Covenant story to progress so that you can upgrade that gear. Is Mythic+ worth the time investment at this point? I don't really think so, and if it weren't for the Great Vault, I'm sure it wouldn't be. We need some sort of currency so you always feel you are progressing towards the next piece of gear.