Joscha Bach on Jordan Peterson

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JB calling it like it is. clear, concise, not inflammatory, but appropriately critical

keevinsil
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Joscha Bach should talk to Sam Harris..

shader
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Peterson needs to approach Yuval Noah Harari about learning vipassana, then do it

llamafruitbat
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I’m a very big Peterson fan, I have studied all his work, but what Joshua says here is true of Peterson and I honestly think that in the quiet, even Peterson would somewhat agree.

jenniferbrantley
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JB has clearly stated that happiness is not the ultimate goal. Meaning is. If he didn't take himself seriously he wouldn't be able to accomplish what he has. Which is helping a lot of people stand in their feet. Including myself

andreasp
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I think JB is thinking about how JP is saying stand up within the system and do your best, but the problem is with the system, so you can never win hence you will only ever suffer

sirishgreen
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3:05 A bit like every retail worker then PAAAIIINNN!

MrVaypour
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I don't understand. Can someone summarise the criticism laid out by JB?

amustafa
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HOLY I always felt this about Peterson but Joscha put it into words

Rizzmaster
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Joscha doesn't understand the concept of mitigating extreme suffering because he has empathetic hardware missing.

hhhhippo
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Milenias are authoritarians? Explain pls...

tramujarie
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Peterson’s goal is not happiness it’s meaning. He says that meaning is intrinsically tied to responsibility. The burdens Peterson has voluntarily chosen to shoulder are what make him a bitter old curmudgeon. So really Bach’s disagreement is that happiness is more fundamental than meaning. Which is a pointless statement because it is contextually subjective.

Weinertobbagan
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Peterson finds meaning with what he does. And he is helping millions of people. Happiness is not his main goal. He is a heroic figure in that sense.

andreasp
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Peterson is not bitter wtf. Josha bach is way more bitter than Peterson

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