LEAVING ABLETON LIVE for BITWIG???

Am I switching from ABLETON LIVE to BITWIG?

MY NEW SINGLE:

MY INSTA:

CHAPTERS:
00:00INTRO
01:02 HYBRID TRACKS
03:37 NOTE FX
05:10 RANDOMIZATION
07:47 THE GRID
08:57 AUDIO EDITING
11:11 AUDIO EDITING
12:11 STABILITY
12:11 AUDIO EDITING
15:22 AM I SWITCHING?

[cybergwen]

I switched from Ableton Live to Bitwig, too - in December 2020, back when Bitwig already had MPE for a while and Live still didn't. Haven't regretted it, in fact, I never upgraded my Live 10 Suite to Live 11 after that. The reasons in your video were the exact same reasons for me too.

[juschu]

You didn't talk about containers. Racks in Ableton are cool, but containers in Bitwig are basically like racks on steroids.
• There are layer containers which are like basic racks in Ableton with multiple parallel chains.
• There are selector containers to have multiple parallel chains where just one is active at a time. You can also switch with midi notes. So you could play a synth with your keyboard in a live situation and quickly switch to another sound with certain keys or drum pads on your keyboard.
• The chain container to quickly add a dry/wet and gain knob to plugins which are missing it (there are more of them than I like). This is possible in Ableton but in Bitwig it's easier.
• Containers to have two chains for the left/right or mid/side channel. This is possible in Ableton but in Bitwig it's easier.
• Multiband containers to quickly spilt the signal into 2 or 3 parallel frequency Bands. This is possible in Ableton but in Bitwig it's easier.
• Transient shaper containers containers to process the transients with other devices than the sustain part of the signal (unfortunately this one adds a lot latency because it uses an FFT).
• With a replacer container, you have a gate and every time the gate opens, instead of letting through the signal, it sends a midi note to an instrument you place in that container. I own that plugin (it's awesome and cheap), but just for fun I used this to copy Klevgrand Fosfat just with stock devices in Bitwig.
• Every stock instrument is a container. When you place stock effects into the FX chain of a stock instrument, those effects become polyphonic. Even though you see just one chain, internally, you get 6 chains with synced parameters for a synth which is set to 6-voice polyphony. This also gives you a better overview if you save a lot of user presets for you synths. Let's say you make a sound in Ableton that heavily depends on the effects you added after the synth. If you want to save the preset with all those effects, it can only be an Instrument Rack preset but not a preset for Operator, Tension, Wavetable, ... In Bitwig, you just put the effects INTO the synth and hot after it, and then you can save a preset for the synth which also includes those effects. When you later browse through your presets, you can specifically filter for presets for a certain synth, with or without effects included.
• Also some stock effects are containers. For example, you can place effects into the feedback chain of the delay and reverb. There's a ring mod effect which has a sine oscillator with a fixed frequency as a modulation source. You can put effects into it's source chain to process that sine wave before ring mod happens or you could even place a whole synth in there to replace that sine oscillator because at that point, devices still receive the MIDI signal (if there is one in that track. Otherwise you can grab it from somewhere else with the Note Receiver or just grab audio from somewhere else with the Audio Receiver.)
• and some more

[ELEKTROGOWK]

The first reason why I changed from Ableton to Bitwig is the better synchronization to my external gear. Even the Ableton Link sync to my iPad is in Bitwig better. That's a shame. It should better be called Bitwig Link 🤣🤣

[AdamElteto]

I think the best thing going for Bitwig is that is not just yet another DAW, but a creative tool as a whole. You can record, mix and use VST with any DAW, but DAWs that come with their own set of creative tools are an instrument themselves.

With that said, Ableton also is a suite that is a massive creative tool. Then you get Max, of course, and Ableton also simply has more resources, articles, tutorials and videos, with a bigger community. That cannot be dismissed easily.

Nothing wrong with using multiple DAWs.

[absyntho]

I went to Bitwig 1 month ago because I had really serious CPU issues since I've update to Suite 11...I've been using Ableton since version 4 and I still love it (back to 10), but Bitwig is my top DAW now, period.

[WarrenPostma]

Look, Ableton has its place. But bitwig is just better.

[austonsmith]

For Ableton hanging... all you do is run it, dont click "ok" on the error. Ignore the frozen Ableton Live and simply run a new live session. It can recover your work before it "abnormally shut off".

[JamieR]

What's so great imo is how easy the transition is since Bitwig is so similar to Live. Besides bringing so many innovative features which Live later added.

Also, having bounce in place is awsome. I always duplicated my bounce tracks, grouped all plugins and then disabled everything + muted the track. That way I'd have the original if I needed to revert back, but it makes each project end up pretty massive with all the disabled tracks. Especially if it's already 120+ tracks.

The auto disabling of current crashed plugin in Bitwig is amazing. In Ableton I constantly had to save new version of my projects. By the end of a full track I'd have over 30-40 track files with 1.0, 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.4, etc. Works but time wasted.

Bitwig just does everything Ableton does, better. The only place I'd use Ableton over Bitwig would be for gigging. At that front APC40 + Live is pretty solid and it served me well while I was playing records.

[heftexperience]

Most importantly, Bitwig also allows Audio Slip Editing like Logic, Pro Tools. This save me so much time to edit drums or vocals or anything in audio format. That's why I am never going back to Ableton, haha.

[gaoeykreg]

I'm a longtime Logic Pro user. Since the recent release of the iPad version which is subscription only, rumours/predictions about the macOS version going the same way keep cropping up. If Logic Pro goes completely subscription-based, I'm out. So in preparation, I've been researching alternatives and up to now it's between Ableton Live, Cubase and Bitwig. Time will tell.

[dizzler-beats]

Great vid, im thinking of switching aswell. Only time will tell !

[trollingisasport]

I'm potentially leaving FL for Bitwig. For mixing, it's so quick to dial in sounds and automation. The only thing that FL Studio has over it is the piano roll. I really hate how most daws handle midi input. It's so slow.

[sugarskulldigital]

I'm transitioning over to Bigwig from Ableton due to instability.

[panamatsu]

I'm totally agree, last point is the most important to me, even you have a progress bar while project is loading, and it never freezes! In Ableton you don't know if a big project it is gonna load or it will stay loading forever...
That sachiel and EoE poster😍😍

[markushavers]

You will see...You will love Bitwig even more if you got warm with "The Grid", "Note-Grid" and "FX-Grid". No other DAW is so flexible, intuitive and deep at the same time.

[TheCosmicTeapot]

If you're considering Bitwig, Splice offers it on a 3 year rent-to-own plan. Bitwig is a bit pricey upfront so rent-to-own was a life saver.

[axelmaldini]

The fact that you can create complex sounds within the instrument 'Layer' and then automate them directly into the recording by just moving knobs and turning buttons on and off and it all gets recorded is monumental [ it works amazingly with the Macro buttons in Avenger VPS, it's actually the only DAW where you can do it efficiently ]. In FL Studio 21 you can create a sound from the Patcher and then you have to create knobs for each input and then you can automate them in the sequencer, prehistoric. BITWIG IS THE NEW SHIT! THE BEST OF THEM ALL SO FAR!

[DaKingof]

That option doesn't disable the plugin. It makes sure to load the plugin seperate from all other plugins, incase you have 'mixing' plugins or something that can talk to each other, that need to be in the same environent. You can still have it to where those plugins can see each other but the naughty plugins will always load in their own container so they don't crash anything else.

[paulbradshawguitar]

did it last year after trying out bitwig for a a few weeks, for the in shortcuts/speed initially that suited me much better, and the 4.0 update with operators/midi devices and more cemented that choice even further, it just keeps getting better as well

[austonsmith]

For Hybrid tracks... in Ableton Live, simply route the midi into an audio track... you could easily resample it into an audio conversion if you wanted to edit. Don't flatten, just resample.
Then disarm midi for later.