Should G2 Have Jumped?

Is what G2 did at Champions last week - i.e. jumping off the map so as to save - unsportsmanlike?

Should they be fined, praised or simply tolerated for their, let’s say, strategic maneuver?

Lastly - and most importantly - is it insane that we’re even having this conversation?

Probably. But we’re here. So let’s have it.

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[just_dont_do_it]

its disrespectful to forfeit the match, its disrespectful to forcefully throw the game so it ends faster, it is NOT disrespectful to do a move that they believed will help them win the match. twitter dude is delusional

[cow]

No less entertaining than having 2 players on a team hide and save for 2 minutes, when in the first contact of the round they lost 3 players immediately.

[TiboFPS]

its part of the map design... its the correct strategic move and there are no rules against it.

[brolteon]

This is one of those cases where if G2 ended up winning the game, this would be looked back as one of the most insanely big brain plays in E-Sports history.

[Dex-ofri]

Not a Valorant player, but this move is 4head. No reason to fine them.

[squidbarf]

As long as it isn't in bad faith (IE a part of a legit strategy) who cares tbh.

[fabiopauli]

i think this is a classic case of hate the game not the player. If thats the most optimal stratagy in a stratagy shooter: thats on riot

[NatRoll]

It’s funny how people don’t understand this is almost no different from a 3 man save. The point is to not give your opponent money and orbs. And if you’re using classics vs rifles, snipers, etc. on the longest range map in the game, you’re going to lose hands down 95% of the time unless you have a miracle round. Think mark, think!

[avination]

G2 Afks in a rat spot so they dont give money to Lev, Audience: NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT 2 MINUTES FOR NEXT ROUND
G2 Jumps off the map and just skips the round, Some random caster: WTF ARE YOU DOING, THE DISRESPECT IS CRAZY

[oLabbb]

it’s the same when cs pros used to die in a molly to prevent giving extra money to smgs, so that’s alright by me
btw jumping off is disrespectful in valorant while pros in cs are casually showing middle fingers while losing 1 : 11 (broky from faze) and after they comeback and win they still show middle fingers, i don’t and probably will never understand valorant community and these rules against toxicity
toxicity is what makes watching gaming interesting, i’d like to see someone as toxic and as good as s1mple has been a long time ago

[matthewk.]

If this is disrespectful to the sport, then Riot might as well go after everyone who dies to the spike. Oh wait, that's literally every pro team ever.

[RealTaIk]

Kinda funny that youtube says this game is overwatch because this was a normal strat in overwatch lol.

[MNFR]

This is a fine way to play. It's unexciting for viewers, and if rito wants to fix it, it's super simple.. put a wall there, and the next day, it never happens again.

But in essence it's no different to regular sports:
- in baseball a pitch can choose to throw 4 balls so far from the batter that he has no chance to hit them. The better gets a free walk to 1st base, but you can do it to stop a great hitter from hitting a home run.
- in American football a quarter back can take a knee to avoid being tackled, or they can throw the ball out of bounds to avoid the risk of interception. Very unexciting, but legal way to play the game.

[CRWYT]

It’s just CS mollys all over again. If Riot actually thinks this is an issue, they should give suicide penalties.

[bubble]

They threw one round to give themselves a better chance at the more important rounds. What matters is winning the match not a specific round. What they did is totally fine, hate the game not the players.

[kaitoa.]

This is like the CSGO molly issue. IM SURE they weighed the possibility of getting some pistol kills, lowering their eco, and winning the round. But they realized that if they lost then the other team would have just snowballed out of something they could manage which caused them to make a play.

If riot has an issue then don’t make a map the allows this mechanic.

[hmalba]

If it's strategic in nature and doesn't violate rules, it's fair game. If Riot doesn't want those kinds of strategies in their game, they shouldn't put a ledge in spawn. The onus would be on them to patch those sorts of strategies out of the game if they don't want them in their game.

[Tetrs]

Why are valorant players so heated over nothing lmfao

[michaldrotar]

1:53 the second take is very wrong, he said that "they deny 1000 credits and 5 ult orbs" but they actually deny 1000c {5x200} in kills, 5 ult orbs {kills}, 2 ult orbs {pick up}. 1500c {spike plant} and 1 ult orb from planting. Also I saw them use *some* abilities at the start of the round which also cost them a bit of money, if they waited for the enemy to use more abilities they risk the chance of them making it to a site and planting, getting a - as the post says "shitton of cash". Jumping off is a valid strategy, as it can't be applied every round {cause you would lose} but it saves your team the mental draining of having to fight an extremely unfavourable fight and probably getting completely destroyed. Best thing is that you can do this if you hear the enemy chamber ult pre round {even if it is highly unlikely that a chamber would ult on enemy eco round, you never know}. I don't want to say whether it's a good or even approved of strategy, but it has it's benefits beyond what the post said.

[ImHikaruCat]

Never thought jump of the cliff to deny enemies economy is disrespectful in valorant terms. Wait until bros see broky flipping liquid at 1:11 and they might fainted because of that.