Brian Eno on basic income

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Brian Eno speaking at 'Basic Income: How do we get there?' Basic Income UK meet-up at St Clements Church Kings Square, London, 3 December 2015.

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Love what he said about not getting a job. It's on point.

Why do human beings infer purpose, goals, and necessities - labor, in this case - in a cosmos with no purpose, goals, or necessities? This only promises conflict, for it doesn't flow with reality.

ShakinJamacian

I always come away feeling smarter from merely listening to Eno, whether listening to his work or his thoughts.

His insight here is touched on in "Found a Job, " which he produced for Talking Heads in 1978. Byrne sings, "If what you do ain't what you love, then something isn't right."

GrantTarredus

This is an important message from Eno and I will recommend to all my students

stephenhurley

I was born to poor parents, having to work hard for income has got in the way of my social life, love life and often has stifled my creativity so congratulations to those that never have to worry about that, you have the best gift of all.

squiremuldoon

Scenuis! I wish I could like this twice.

coreycox

I'd like to see Brian Eno on basic income.

Johnconno

Exactly. My main job is to do is anything that prevents me from getting a "normal" job :-) . My primary task is making art. And so far (I'm 57) I've succeeded in that. Money is not important for me. However, I live in a country where something like that is possible. The Netherlands.

charleskrutzen

Scene-ius, so true- what I've thought about the early punk scene. Eno, as always, most intelligent, aware individual of our time.

slimedog

Create yourself. Create a sole trader business and everything you buy is tax deductible. No income from business? Who cares you make it up from tax cuts and returns. Work on your own project not others. Sure learn from others through being admin etc but u were born with a gift you will give more to cause its ur passion. We need more creators and less haters. Be true to yourself and it will help the world in some way. - Reigns

masterlifeandlove

This may be triggering for folks, but if we don’t all want to be working class heroes we may want to start thinking outside the box about income

toberschorr

Yeah... Dream on Brian. In our unregulated corrupt society in every form of government, it can never happen.

cemegonuts

angesichts der milliarden-umsätze mit elektronischer musik müssten solche leute wie brian eno, die sich um die elektronische musik ausserordentlich verdient gemacht haben, finanziell
ausgesorgt haben .... !!!

burkhardkiekebusch

"
I think although great new ideas are usually articulated by individuals, they're nearly always generated by communities.
And I think what I see is the waste that we make of that possibility of cooperative intelligence.
Being an artist you hear a lot of talk about genius, which is the process of singling out certain people in art history and saying "those were the important ones".
You know, Picasso, Rembrandt, Shostakovich, whatever.
Whenever you look at any of those artists you find that they lived and drew from a very very active flourishing cultural scene, and they were only mone of the elements in that scene.
All these people who are called genius actually sat in the middle of something that I call SCENIUS.
So just as genius is the creative intelligence of individuals, scenius is the creative intelligence of a community.
What I want to see is more attention given to that possibility of creative behaviour.
What that means, of course, is two things:
One of them is the understanding that all people are born unequal, so everybody has a particular and unique set of gifts and talents, whatever they are.
And secondly that intelligence is generated by communities, by cooperation of some king.
"

ThePedroPimenta

Art Groups already exist and are inevitable. Human beings are social animals and the like minded will gather towards similar goals and conventions. For better or for worse, /pol/ is this era's Avant Garde. In general Art Groups tend to be a mixed bag and, like any community, are more often heavily intellectually repressive and elitist (Echo Chambers) than liberating (ie. Warhol's Factory).

I would say a state financed Art Collective would be more of a hindrance to iconoclasts and progress than the starving artist capitalist model. To the extent that they can spend their own money and do their own marketing and get their ideas out there, which is why so many online artists and YouTubers are thriving and transcending the old Industry Models, economically, socially and above all, artistically. If you put the Bureaucrats in charge of the purse strings or even allowing them to decide on the gate keepers of Artistic Convention, you will cause stagnation and censorship. We see it all the time on campuses and the products from nationalized grant councils and public broadcasters. It's Dullsville, Daddy-O.

Unless Eno is proposing that a basic income would include the financing for everyone to have equal access to all mediums. For example, the State would provide every citizen with a top of the line digital cameras, mics, editing studios, etc., which just isn't feasible. Hence why you would have Bureaucrats and tax funded dictatorial Dilettante Arbiters of Taste who would turn grants, performance + museum spaces and/or air time into their own private playgrounds, just as they've always done within the public sector.

Of course the whole 'basic income' idea is shoddy and unsustainable but it's downright naive to think you can maximize your country's artistic community through such a program.

Ironically, Eno and his contemporaries had fostered and lead many convention-shattering artistic innovations within the capitalist system. Yet, if he had to appease the Viennese court the way Mozart or Beethoven had, then we wouldn't have had much beyond Roxy Music. If Joseph II wouldn't allow dancing in an opera, what would he make of Music For Airports?

jordil

Very interesting ideas. Perhaps we can persuade all the rich people to donate so more of us who are artists musicians etc and not from well-off background have more opportunities?? I like the idea of Universal Basic income.

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