Prusa XL Unbox & vs X-1 Carbon! Unscientifically Tested! Faster & Less Waste?!

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The @Prusa3D XL, 5 Tool 3d printer is here! Tool changing fun is in our future, but how does the 5 Toolhead Prusa XL compare to the Bambu Lab X1-Carbon with an AMS? Are toolchanger 3d printers really that much better? Let's unbox the Prusa Xl and test to compare it against the X1 Carbon for speed and waste in multicolor 3d printing!

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[Drivenapollo]

You all need to chill out. It’s not a review of the XL. He did mention it would take a lot of prints to make up the cost difference. He did speak about the fuzziness from the XL. He had a great time using the printer. Which is awesome to see considering the initial reviews were rough. Stop hating it because it cost what it does, and enjoy the tech behind it. I can’t afford it, but I love how much less waste it uses. Cost wise the X1 has a lot more to offer, but for multicolor the XL is awesome.

I loved the video. I learned more about an issues with the Bambu AMS from 2 years ago that launched with the first gen of machines. I have seen a lot of people commenting on the issues they are having. I’ve been happy with my A series AMS.

This machine is so cool. I just wish the price was more affordable. Great video!!

[MrAT-bvzb]

Prusa vs Bambu is like Mercedes vs Kia

[stratos]

We all know that XL and X1 have completely different use cases. But if you want to make comparisons, here is another one. You can buy 5 P1S+AMS combos (or 3 X1C+AMS combos) for the price of single prebuilt 5-tool XL with enclosure and still have over $350 to spend on gummy bears.

See? It really makes no sense to compare these printers, because XL is made for different market.

[Janovich]

I did the rough math on the break even point in filament waste on those machines.
Comparing a fully decked out 5 printhead Prusa XL vs a Bambu X1C Combo.
Given those mug prints, it would take about 1000 prints until the cost of waste from the X1C makes up for the price difference.
At 2 days per print that would be about 6 years of non stop printing.

However Prusa XL also has local bed heatup which drastically reduces the greatest consumption of electricity.
If you assume the Prusa Bed draws about half the amount of the Bambu bed then you would break even at about roughly 5 years.

After that the Prusa is profit. So if you have an active printfarm, high electricity cost and intend to use the machine for a long time then it would make financial sense.
Ofcourse variables will vary between different types of prints and locations.

[russnbish]

One thing I have found that helps feeding with the AMS is to use an xacto knife and spin it inside the ends of the PTFE tube. This creates a beveled inside which helps the filament feed smoothly. I don't have any trouble with my AMS feeding.

[olavodias]

Just came across this YT channel today. Loved it, the way you present the content is very good, without any wasted time. And I loved the animals haha

[bannablitz]

I think it is worth noting that the issues you had with the AMS are likely due to the AMS not actually being compatible with carboard spools. Definitely worth checking out the printed upgrades.

[andybloo]

I own a p1 with AMS. I think is a great printer and it’s nice that the filament is in an enclosure keeping it dry. I tend to print only layered pieces as it does produce a lot of waste and takes a long time. That being said I can’t justify the price of the XL as it’s 5 times the cost. Nice video by the way 😊

[chrisboerma]

As a Bambu user there are things about the XL w/5 tool heads that I'm jealous off.

And... there are things about my X1C I consider superior to the XL... which is pretty much exactly what I'd expect! These are different machines and something are great for some people, other things for other people. A Pickup Truck is a great vehicle for some people because of the bed to haul stuff around. Others don't need that and want a smaller car that's more fuel efficient. You can't compare a truck and a sedan and say: This is clearly the best for everyone all the time.

XL = Faster, less waste in multi-color, bigger bed, better true multi-material
X1C = Faster for single color (I think), much cheaper, up to 16 possible colors, enclosed print area

What's best? Depends on your needs For me the X1C fits the bill much better. For someone else it might be the XL. Choice is good. Competition makes every one work a bit hard to improve their products. This is a good things.

[Slurgical_D_Terrain_Channel]

Great video, I would love a Prusa XL to test the terrain I design. I currently have X1C and it has been a game changer for prototyping and workflow.

[kaytrim]

This is the reason why I want to build a Voron Stealthchanger. Six toolheads for not only multi-color but multi-material for supports.

[hanslain]

A collab with a larger content creator would be sweet for exposure. Your channel deserve more subs!!

[OlavAlexanderMjelde]

I do in one way prever the Prusa XL multi toolhead, but on the other hand I prefer the price of my cheap A1 with AMS.
I know its not really apples to apples and of course some types of pritns will be way faster on a multi toolhead printer, for instance if you print a wheel with a different color on the outside, then it would have to swap filament for each layer.

But on the other hand, as an amateur, I cant really justify 3000 EUR for a 3d-printer :P While I do love 3dprinting, I do hope multi toolhead printers become more affordable.

[Steaky]

The issue I think you’re having is that it was cardboard spools in the ams. I’ve tried various brands kinky polymaker and others and they are all the same. They slip like hell, chew up and cause the ams to slip, particularly when it’s rewinding the filament during a colour change.
I’d be very interested you doing the exact same print with either Bambu spools (or any plastic spools) or do the same print again but with some printed spool outer diameter rings on those cardboard spools - I’d bet them ams would be more reliable in this scenario.

[cybergnetwork]

The issue with your X1C is having the AMS on top of the printer. Mine it to the side. In addition, add a spacer to the top glass. Load/unload issue solved.

[alessiobernoco]

Thank you for this video, I was looking for something like this! A real direct comparison on which to choose if I have enough money but wnat only one printer that prints

[sebas]

this is a great comparison, another comparison is that the X1 only fits 2 of those models while the XL can fit more, i do hope on the future we can compare the XL to other toolchangers either commercial or self built

[Mrwilder]

Love my x1c had a few issues with the ams because of filament breaking. I now only buy from bambu lab and no problems now. I use mine for work not as multicolor priority though. Just changing filament constantly it's amazing.

Really wish prusa set up a warehouse in the States nothing bites more than when I'd get my "free filament" and still need to shell out 30$.

[TheNerdArmory]

7:41 i get these issues exclusively if i run cardboard spools without any plastic edges around them. If you run them bare it wears on your motors and has feeding issues. I don't like having to slip on plastic runners around them but when they glide easily, i never have the issues.

[oldsaltyd]

It's a shame you're having issues with your AMS I've had three AMS's for over a year now and the only issues I've had is when I've left filament in them that becomes brittle and breaks inside. I then have to take the AMS apart to get the broken filament out, but that's it.