Is Donald Trump Spengler's Caesar? On The Decline of the West

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Copyright: Johannes Achill Niederhauser

[stretch]

Julius Caesar: "I came, I saw, I conquered."
Donald Trump: "covfefe"

[troymash]

He's a populist moderate. Turn off the idiotic corporate propaganda and look at him your damn self is my advice to TDS sufferers.

[GreenTeaViewer]

He was 1 inch away from being Tiberius Gracchus. That's why history doesn't necessarily repeat, it merely rhymes, because serendipity and plain luck happens.

[marktregear]

But that is not to say that a Caesar will not appear

[DaleGamburg]

Ceasar was an actual genius.military and political, which is rare.

[James-epbx]

Two interesting notes on this matter, 1. Julius Cesar had good reason to bring his soldiers with him, as the last time someone found themselves in the same position they ended up dead, 2. Julius Cesar didn't actually disband the Senate, a successor used the assassination of him to justify doing so

[vincentgarzoli]

Not a Caesar, and not a dictator. Caesar conquered his rivals and ended the era of Rome as a Republic to begin the Roman Empire with himself as a dictatorial Emperor.

If we ever should end up with a dictator (and my hope is we never do), the best case scenario would not be a Caesar, but a Cincinnatus.

Legend has it the retired Cincinnatus was called upon to be dictator not once, but in two occasions in the face of emergencies. In both instances, Cincinnatus rapidly quelled each crisis, then dutifully and promptly turned power back over, returning to his farm and retirement.

He could easily have decided to heed the temptations of absolute authority and kept the power of dictatorship, but instead chose to return to the Romans their Republic.

[MikeGeorgeC]

Ironic: because if there is a Ceaser; odds are he's watching this.

[haleffect]

He isnt, if anything, he's more like a Graccus figure, a portent of things to come rather than anyone particularly important in and of themselves.

[MrdeanDean]

Absolutely not, he lines up with Tiberius Gracchus. A family member can substitute as Caius Gracchus later.

[neilkiots]

laughing, imagining this as the post-election recap on mainstream media

[scottweaverphotovideo]

No one who knows anything about the life of Julius Caesar would compare Trump to him in any way.

[theweakestunionberlinenjoy]

"What if the gracchi brothers weren't assassinated" might play out in these 4 years

[jacobdavison]

I think Trump is more akin to the Gracchi brothers. Wealthy plebeians who rose through the ranks and wanted to break down the Patrician oligarchy in Rome by appealing to populism

[celmaidinpadurebaiat]

no, he is not the equivalent of caesar. but he is an extraordinary man, meaning he can bend and shape reality around him. i think each is in a cathegory of his own

[dohminkonoha]

I don’t know, but every future president of USA will try to be new Trump .
Ideology is not problem, even socialist trump or Christian fundamentalist trump will be possible in USA.

[magpiecity]

Caesar will appear when Trump fails...

[LuisCanales-xj]

The haters will make up all kinds of theories and conspiracies, rather to admit that President Donald Trump is an American for Americans. A True Patriot who fights for his people.

[account-gpsn]

People in the comments saying he is like Gracchi brothers (hell no!).... the Kennedy Brothers were like the Gracchi, and like them, both were really assassinated by factions of their own government.... also, the Ur-Symbol of the West is infinite space, not static bound form like Apollonian man who thus saw the powerful and divine as in human-form, so our "Ceasar" may or will not even come in human form -- but as something techno-modified.

[randallrobertson]

The Trumps are the Graccus. Not the Iulius.