Slavoj Zizek — Elon Musk, Neuralink & Post-Humanism

[iwouldprefernotto]

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[AnarchyApple]

my favourite part of this video is google thinking zizek's speaking dutch

[MistaGobo]

18:43 The quote: "Human beings are not rational, but rationalizing" comes to mind.

[aphelon]

I like Zizek and so on and so on you know

[fromeveryting]

He is right. It seems to me, every part of my life full of passion and meaning are really full of problems, imperfection and tension.
I was madly in love with this woman some time back. And she was utterly imperfect. Some of her annoyed me, some of her angered me. I disagreed with her and had internal discussions with her every day. We were extremely clumsy. We could always sense that the other was about to say something, but holding it back in fear. And when we did say things it would come out wrong, be misunderstood. A loving comment could hurt, an insecure glance could make us shy and thrilled at the same time. A remark of criticism could fill us with tenderness.
Some moments I could discover how truly banal she was. And it brough me great joy to wonder for myself why I even liked her. And it was exactly because everything was a little "wrong" that I loved her. I've never felt stronger love. Something being "wrong" matters. It being wrong means it matters.
This is the stuff of poetry and art. It's also the stuff of comedy. Something always falling short of the ideal.

[martinsndergaard]

The idea of not being aware of someone controlling your movement is terrifying, and thinking it’s your own will. I guess it’s the matrix but less zombie.

[Usernotfound]

One Zizek a day keeps the doctor away..

[michaelstaub]

Us being controlled by an agent and thinking we have free will is already happening to a lesser extent - no neuralink required. Our identities are stories we tell ourselves, but most of our motivations are subconscious and can easily be manipulated by algorithms. We rationalize our behavior after the fact. Also, people with hemispatial neglect are often unaware of their condition. Their minds sometimes come up with stories about why they can't interact with something on their left, which signals to me that the scenario where a person is being controlled but feels like they are in control is entirely possible.

[moritzkolb]

I'm Studien physilosophie right now, best modern philosopher I know, he is every time baffling my mind with his way to see our world and still manages to laugh in between and make a comedy out of it. Life goals

[JonnyInfinite]

The idea of the 'clumsiness' of language brings to mind the pauses and 'errs' of the Google demo of the AI making a phone call. AI apes the 'error' of authenticity to enable the unsuspecting shop worker to think they are speaking to a real person...

[mspirit]

The flirtacious lady is Zisek's number one humblebrag.

[oraz.]

That notion about "dirct thought" being an illusion like the impression of a good movie in between two bad adaptations was friggin awesome.

[localterrane]

What he says about perfection goes very well with the thought of Utopia not existing. The distant ideal is never attainable. I first heard about this in the book "The Meaning of Landscape". I highly recommend!

[TheUniqueable]

The last point he made is bone chillingly frightening

[timpauwels]

This reminds me of a movie, Ratatouille, where *sniff* precisely the reverse is portrayed - rat is controlling human to cook food, except here the control is purely motorical (by some stupid pulling of hair), so human is aware he is being controlled.

[atomoyoga]

The "Imperfections" of his physical appearance and tics makes him even more interesting and inspiring. And the conflict of his conclusions makes him genius 👏👏👏

[tharofleshcolouredeyes]

I realize it could be more subtle changes, being applied to ones brain, that might be seen as ones own thoughts, but it might not be so bad in a situation where you research Viruses, and get direct access to relevant task oriented thoughts. A space of suggested neural pathways-(Other colleges/research papers thoughts) you can go down, (like a highly optimized version of how we are suggested words and sentences) that then can be montaged into your own task oriented approach to X- specific Virus-You'r team of colleagues are researching. (besides, it wouldn't bypass language, just think, and optimize towards a cleaner version of it, including senses, sights and sounds, being transferred directly, and other such interfaces with cells, tactile feelings, markers that objects connected to the internet of things might be characterized by, like this language of objects-The thoughts your brain might send out, without you'r knowledge of it-should be marked, and parked in an intermediary zone, compartmentalized, and deleted from this external system, if you wish for it to be so. That is to say, awaiting further exception before being send out to other systems.. It could be compromised, hacked, who would trust Neuralink with owning these external systems, yea, this is HIGHLY problematic for sure... and the risks involved with getting a computer interface outside of a milieu of other people using it also seems like an extremely dangerous thing to do, even thou Elon says it would be smart just to borrow some money, optimize your productivity with Neuralink, and pay it all back a short time later.. this seems like bad advice, and will probably throw a lot of people neck first into it, without having thinking it trough...)

[tobiaszb]

Precisely his accent and shaking makes him so interesting to hear.

[jooosiii]

@10:15 "See the positive generating aspect of imperfection." Yessir!

[yousefsaleh]

I want a Zizek/Elon interview so badly.. wish Joe Rogan knew of Slavoj, he would definitely have him on