'Deaths of the Apostles' – Debate with the godly

Don't imagine a radio debate with Christians has any fidelity to fairness. But even two salesmen of Jesus baloney aren't a match for the truth.

Ken Humphreys vs. Sean McDowell, second generation apologist, and Justin Brierley, presenter for Premier Christian Radio.

Enjoy!

[TruthSurge]

"It's a historically based religion." oh... my ... gawd. He didn't just say that. The only thing historical about it is that the forged epistles and fictional gospels were actually written in the past.

[philojudaeusofalexandria]

"In fact men will fight for a superstition quite as quickly as for a living truth - often more so, since a superstition is often so intangible you cannot get at it to refute it."
Hypatia of Alexandria [5th century scientist/philosopher; tortured and killed as a witch by christians]

[fredericdouglas]

Ken, you had way more patience with the other side monopolizing the time than I would have had.

[WilliamJonesLeavingReligion]

Sean didn't answer a single question or prove anything. just useless rambling.

[amycormier]

"the bible is true. look, it says so right here in the bible."

[classicgameplay]

I lost my patience halfway throught it.

[mr.beepers]

You did not get a fair interview. 90% Sean, 10% Ken.

[Daniel-Manole]

Mister Ken, I am surprised that you were allowed to talk from time to time.

[TruthSurge]

9:50 Translated: "I have nothing." Thanks for admitting that.

[TruthSurge]

1:55 "what made you want to particularly investigate the fate of the apostles?" Maybe, being indoctrinated and brainwashed from the womb 24/7?

[malvanlondon]

Surely, Ken wasn't given an equal crack of the whip here - yet still came out on top!

[HerkRants]

This is painful to listen to. The phrase, "thick as a brick, " comes to mind. Apologist: divert, dissemble, invent.

[JasonRoggasch]

THE WHOLE argument is really CAN WE EVEN prove these martyrs were even real before we say they died for whatever...

[plwpahi]

+JesusNeverExistd It sounded like Justin had you on mute most of the time, and he kept on repeating and reinforcing what ever Sean said. So this does not qualify as a debate. I think they had you on the show so Sean can get some credit by claiming that he debated you and won.

[davidfrisken]

Sean's lack of knowledge was shocking, and his continuous attempts to deceive would make a used car salesman proud.

[michaeldeaton]

"If the Bible is a valid source for the existence of Jesus, then the Lord of the Rings is a valid source for the existence of Frodo and Gandalf" -This is the best way to get the point across to Christians that their "sources" are actually fictional narratives or, in other words, fables, and thus not a valid citation for history.

Its like trying to cite Aesop's Fables as a valid source for Chicken Little

[malvanlondon]

Why can't these Christian apologists ever answer the actual question put to them? For example, an incisive question like: "Do we have any non-Biblical sources?" They just tap dance back to talking about the gospels again or simply assert that Jesus Mythicism is only a minority view..

[Robert.Deeeee]

Ken "give me one source outside of the gospels"

Christian car salesman huckster "John chapter 21"

bwhahahahah you can't make this stuff up.

[tonysalmons]

Learnt one thing here, never argue with Christians.

[oldmandan]

Wow, Sean admits the Epistles of Timothy are recognized as frauds and yet insists they are evidence of the apostles and their martyrdom.