Why is Laravel NOT used in Big Development Projects?

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[TecnocraciaLTDA]

Well... there are a bunch of big companies like BBC, 9GAG, Pfizer, Crowdcube, TourRadar, Ratio, About You, PedidosYa using Laravel.
PHP is going to version 8.2 this year, november, and it is becoming an awesome safe and robust language like most of mainstreans languages aren't yet (except Java and C++).
PHP is becoming faster and faster each version released. There are now the PHP Foundation giving support to PHP future. With Swoole module, it is faster than NodeJS.
PHP Will Never Die.

[javieru]

I'm a Javascript dev (Node, Angular, Typescript, RxJS, etc.), where I work I had to learn PHP + Laravel, at first it was something boring and tedious, but once I got the hand of it, I started to see things the other way, Laravel is a nice and pretty opinionated Framework.

[PeaceInAfrica]

I have seen Laravel used in a large international fintech company that deals with near 24/7 extremely heavy loads. Laravel scales very well as microservices cluster. Keeping Laravel and PHP version up to date unexpectedly isn't too bad either.

[davideyt]

One of my brothers in law are Directors of tech for a pretty large corporation, he also used to work before that for other, pretty impressive multi-billion euros tech companies.. I actually had a similar talk with him about a year ago, not specifically about this or the other programming language, but I was hiring dev for a project, and wanted some insider info about what some things.. he told me something that can apply to PHP as well - first of all most tech companies are trying as best as possible to not publish and completely hide the tech stacks that are used for their most crucial systems, this reason is easy to understand: security. second of all, a lot of companies today try to look like they are "cool" and "hype" so they advertise that they only use the most bleeding edge stacks.. which is not always right, especially not for the larger companies who must have stable, secure and maintainable code. PHP is probably used in MANY huge and dependable projects without our knowledge. heck in one project my company did not too long ago, we had the entire front-end done with the most cutting edge super cool front-end stuff to make it look sleek, but the backend which is the "brain" behind the UI was done in PHP and two other, not so "cool" enterprise level programming languages, the key was stability, maturity and maintainability.. the budget for that project seven-figures and SELF FUNDED, and it was worth way more afterwards

[JustSteveKing]

A very mature and inspiring approach. I watched this assuming it was going to be another PHP or Laravel bash, but was pleasantly surprised. I myself am a heavy user of Laravel, and know that Laravel powers some very large projects, in terms of scale. When talking about BIG development projects I find it is useful to understand what defines big. Are we talking feature set or popularity?

If it is about feature set, then any framework is going to struggle just as much as the next when it comes it a lot of functionality, and it is more down the the software architectures that the framework can support that will enable you to scale out a BIG project. 9 times out of 10, it is the developers mindset that causes issue with scale in a project, not the tool itself.

[zakhariihusar]

Just began learning PHP few days ago, and I'm surprised how easy it is when you already know JS!

[TheAsarath]

I've used Laravel with everything from critical hospital patient systems to large media companies and while people will hate on it almost as a fashion, it's still being used everywhere. The truth is the web stack is a lot more than just one of the languages involved and Laravel is just one piece of a larger software architecture that includes modern front-end languages such as Vue and React as well as a lot of APIs that may well be coded in anything from Python to C#. Pick the right tool for the job and keep in mind your team's core competencies.

[LearnWithBahman]

Django, Flask, Larvel, Express, Spring...they are all great.

[nathanaelsmith]

I am using Livewire with Laravel 9 and finding it easy to use without too steep a learning curve. Tailwind is quite intuitive too.

[Geodamist]

I started experiement with web development due to some open source game emulator based in java and mysql. We wanted to build a website with user authentication and some players statistics etc. I had no idea how to code a hello world message. For some reason i stamped across laravel since i searched ready to go authentication frameworks. It was hard at start in order to understand some concepts and php syntax but after 6 months and a lot of reading i managed to create full scale app (still operating to this day). Thanks to laravel i understood many concepts, apis, sessions, payment gateways, cache systems with redis, database relationships and much more. Documentation and community around laravel its awesome. Also you can use it as back end tool only and create awesome websites with react, vue and other js libraries. Your limit is your brain. keep coding

[KordTaylor]

Wow! Great channel. And your commentary shows so much experience. I need to tell a friend now. Great point about the legacy situation.

[alexchen]

Thanks for sharing, Stefan! Do you use Vue with Laravel on Studioweb?

[neomangeo]

PHP is more than capable and that is just a fact. I do think that people often don't use it because either they don't like the syntax, they avoid it just because they have heard bad things, or because it is so so web centric.

Other languages (other than JS where you generally just do web but can do both frontend and backend) are good for other areas of software development too, such as desktop, games, iot, ai etc. I would feel limited with PHP (also not a fan of the syntax anyway). Probably why I focus on C# (web, games, desktop, iot, cloud etc etc, and full time employment rather than freelancing gigs, there are twice the jobs in C# to PHP on job sites I look at where I am in the UK) and JS/TS/React (as it is the language of the web).

[mystisification]

PHP (>=8) has been excellent to me, it has A LOT of builtin functionalities and even if the syntax is not incredible, it can be used with OOP or functional patterns and gets out of the way most of the time, it's honestly great.

[JohnDoeX]

This video was really eye opening. Thank you!

[zenelshabani]

I think the issue is that at some point in time PHP was lagging behind on the other frameworks and every big company when they updated chose to go with other languages and end up using node/java/.. & php for their backends / microservices. Thus making it hard and costly to switch frameworks. I for one if I have the option i'll always go back to in a microservices structure, with the frontend being Vue/React/Angular

[maxfrischdev]

Great video and practical answers, Thank you Stef! 🖖🏻

[vitriowibisono]

People seems to forget that php 8 already mature and laravel does the job generally. Javascript is client-sidely good and hyped, i personally use julia if high performance is needed in the backend.

[akhmadsafii]

hello sir, until what age are we, our contribution is still used in startup companies or the coding world. because I am pessimistic about the future of my profession. btw I am currently 27 years old, and my competence is still standard

[zanza]

I use both Symfony and laravel, You already asnwered the question it comes down to the task at hand what you should be using.
I tend to use laravel for smaller projects and symfony for larger project (or onces that are more complex).