Body Language Analyst Reacts To Joker Mob Scene | The Dark Knight

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Mob Boss - “You think you can steal from us and just walk way.”
Joker - “Ya.”

That makes me laugh every time. Especially after how serious the scene was.

REIDiculous
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“as you can see here, he uses his ability to breathe to acquire oxygen. not only does this show that he is in control of the situation, but it shows that he knows how to use his lungs.”

chongert
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I'm so happy that there's still people talking about Heath Ledgers Joker till this day

danlobs
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The Joker also knows how to read body language. He called out the squealer for hiding behind a TV screen rather than meeting in person.

ExcaliburForge
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"You can clearly see by the fact that he puts the pencil in the table with the eraser facing upward, indicating that he was about to erase this henchman's whole career."

BetweenTheLyons
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2:00 "as you can see here, the man who got up to challenge the joker does not get up again, indicating that he clearly doesn't fear the joker, and also has a pencil lodged entirely in his brain"

Hadgerz
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In the context of the movie, the Joker getting offended by being called a "freak" and "crazy" actually makes sense - his entire motivation is to prove that anyone, anyone at all could end up as twisted as he is. It's the point of the two boats scene as well as the reason he tries to corrupt Harvey Dent. This scene acts, among other things, as an early hint to his true motive.

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“As you can see the scene was filmed on a camera, not only does this show evidence of this taking place but it shows that we all got to really enjoy this part in the film.”

BEAR_S
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If you pay close attention, having the ring with the strings attached to the grenades shows he's very willing to blow things out of proportion, and to show how dangerous and serious he is.

interhistoria
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"You think you can steal from us and just walk away?"
"Yeah"
Never gets old

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"You think you can steal from us and just walk away?!"
I love the matter-of-fact way Joker says, "Yeah." 😂

ballybunion
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“You think you can steal from us and just walk away” “yeah” that scalps my sides every time.

taten
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I feel like having this kind of knowledge about someone would either solidify trust or absolutely destroy it

devinthompson
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I love his exiting move, when he backs out holding the deadman’s switch and kicks the door open

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•The Joker in this scene, and many scenes where he is talking to authority figures like mob bosses and cops is basically reading from a script he has memorized to help himself maintain the illusion of control that is vital to achieving his goal. This is almost nonexistent in conversations with Rachel and Batman where his communication seems more natural and appeals to them directly in the moment. Despite his position of confidence, he seems to genuinely be concerned that this interaction with the mob bosses will not be well received…and he knows that his plans hinge on at least some of them reacting to him as intended. He also doesn’t seem to be appealing to anyone else besides Maroni and the Chechen mob boss who is close to him.

•When Gambol initially challenges the Joker he (Gambol) has a mostly relaxed jaw with mild tensing around his eyes and brow, indicating skepticism. After performing the pencil trick, the Joker’s eyes follow the victim below the table as if to be certain he’s dead, then rise toward Maroni’s side of the table as he looks out of the corner of his eyes with a smile reflexively creeping up—this indicates his satisfaction yet mild surprise in front of a person he means to impress. It’s worth noting that he is making eye contact with Maroni while addressing his previous comment about the cheapness of the Joker’s suit, as if Gambol and his dead goon are irrelevant to his goal (because they are).

•Gambol shows clenched teeth and glares from under his brow when saying “freak”, indicating genuine hostility and anger after the death of his henchmen, in contrast with previously being merely irritated.

•The word “freak” genuinely breaks the Joker’s concentration, momentarily, and prompts a deviation from his internal script as he retreads his last few words to find his place, internally. Despite this conversation not being meant for Gambol, Joker picks back up with his script (omitting the part that references himself, as it now feels to vulnerable) and reflexively indicates repressed rage towards Gambol by narrowing his glare at him while sucking his own clenched teeth and “clicking” as a way of preempting his impulse to break his cadence further. All the while, Joker is redirecting his rehearsed speech towards Maroni and his eyes eventually catch up to his audience. Only after redirecting, does he regain all of his composure by referring to Gambol’s grandmother without actually making eye contact with Gambol again.

•Despite being caught off guard by Gambol’s interruption, Joker anticipated being called “crazy” and was ready to emphasize that he wasn’t, while his rehearsed confidence in this assertion did not completely mask a degree of sensitivity to the accusation of being crazy (which seems routed most immediately in not being taken seriously, whether or not he believes his sanity is in question).

•(My personal favorite moment) “You think you can steal from us and walk away?” “Yeah.” This is literally the most sincere moment from the Joker in this scene. He wasn’t expecting such a direct but obvious question, which is after he has made his very planned and deliberate appeal to Maroni and thus has no further rehearsed conversation to recite, and the question passes through the most rudimentary filter of how he should respond that he quickly determines that an honest (but short) answer is acceptable. So…”yeah”.

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enigma: "The Joker is using a form of communication called 'talking', this shows that he can not only speak, but speak."
Me: faxcingslakjsd..

Petey
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I love when the Joker shows he's rigged with grenades, the Russian mobster kinda scoffs away like he's annoyed with the others for pushing him into it. Always thought that was a funny reaction to someone threatening to blow everyone up.

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One thing I love about this version of the Joker, is that despite appearing to be completely “out of control, ” he’s actually far more in control of his thoughts, actions and emotions than anyone else, even Batman himself. Everything he does is planned out and done for a reason, and is always part of a larger plan.

For example, many think the bank robbery at the beginning was just to get the money, and possibly to show the mob he wasn’t afraid of them or just because he was too crazy to care. But if you look at it as part of a grand scheme, it’s actually a brilliant move as with this single act he’s not only put the mob bosses on notice that they don’t scare him, but made a name for himself in the crime bosses of Gotham. This is what allows him to arrive at their secret meeting, and have at least some of the bosses will view him as an equal, be worthy of being heard out and taken seriously, but that wouldn’t have been the case without the robbery of the mob bank.

We see how well thought out Jokers plans are repeatedly through the film, and that from the beginning he’s playing a well thought out game of chess. The police, and Batman, were simply reacting to each of the Joker’s moves, so it was easy for the Joker to know ahead of time how they would react to each of his actions.

Heath’s Joker was an amazing antagonist, made all the more impressive by how lacking most movie villains have been, especially in superhero movies. IMO Joker even tops Thanos as a supervillain, simply because he wasn’t a super powered bad guy that was able to accumulate power and a bunch of magical stones, but because he used his wit and intelligence to achieve his goals, which not only grounds the film in reality, but also makes having compelling villains in future films much easier, not that many films have successfully capitalized on this.

What I mean is, after Joker, it shouldn’t be hard to make other great and powerful villains, but after battling Thanos, and his ability to shape time, space and reality to suit his desires, where o you go from there, while still making the villain seem like a credible threat, not only to earth, but the universe and reality as a whole? Basically it seems Marvel studios have written themselves into a corner such that only giant super powered “magical” beings could be seem as a realistic threat.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I loved most of the first four phases of the Marvel cinematic universe, I just think anything that follows will have a tough time measuring up. This is even the case with superheroes, I mean Thor damn near broke the spectrum of super power abilities, but then they trot out Captain Marvel, and decide that since it’s going to be a woman her power needs to be second to none. So basically they not only wrote themselves into the Superman box, but actually jumped the shark in that where do you go from there? Once you have characters that can fly through space, are invulnerable, have super strength, can fire energy blasts, etc…, who do you introduce next? I think that was part of the reason Antman got such a Luke warm reception, as by the time he was introduced we already had Capt America, Iron Man, Hulk, Falcon and Thor, so he was basically just another guy in a suit which gave him some unique ability, been there, done that.

Speaking of Iron Man, why does he make countless suits for himself, several different versions of War Machine, several suits for Spider-Man and even suits for Pepper, but nothing for Hawkeye, Black Widow, Falcon (although I assume Tony upgraded Falcon’s flight suit to include weaponry, ) or any other elite agents within Shield? Hell, even some of the Avengers with superpowers could benefit from a customized iron man type suit, Captain America, Bucky and Scarlet Witch are the first few to come to mind. After all, despite having super powers, they aren’t bulletproof and could benefit from other advantages the suits would provide.

Sorry, wall of text completed. I’m going to blame my pain, from multiple spine surgeries, as well as my pain meds and being homebound, since long before this current lockdown BS started, for my rambling off in this post. 🤪

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