24-Core Battle: AMD Threadripper Pro 5965WX vs Intel i9 13900k | Which is better for creators?

2x 24-core CPUs AMD Threadripper and Intel Core i9 - Which one is better for creators then?

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0:00 Intro
0:41 Sponsored Segment
1:03 Is it NEW?
1:30 Specs Comparison
2:19 Why MORE PCIe lanes is better?
2:57 RAM & Other Specs
3:44 Testbench setup
3:55 8-Channel Memory and WHY it's DIFFERENT!
6:02 Power Consumption
6:48 Cinebench R23
7:59 Geekbench 5
8:32 Blender
9:42 Photoshop
10:09 Lightroom Classic
10:57 Premiere Pro
12:07 After Effects
12:42 DaVinci Resolve
13:44 V-Ray
14:10 Is it Worth it?
15:37 2 MISTAKES!
16:03 Best PC for Creators

[theTechNotice]

There are 2 minor mistakes in this video:
1. 7:51 the single core score number of 5965wx should be 1365 not 2231. The percentages are still correct though.
2. 12:49 Davinci Resolve benchmark there are a few '-%' that should be RED instead of green.

Thanks for pointing them out guys! 🙏😇

[nightdonutstudio]

During Davinci benchmark, the negative number should be in red but instead it is in green. If this is the wrong part you were refer.

[Gggix]

If I can point 1 thing that so far nobody said is that Threadripper, like Xeon, are built for stability, to stay operative 24/7 so if you're a creator that use Adobe package go to I9/R9 while if you working on 3D packages and you rendering (Maya, 3Ds Max), simulating (Houdini), game designing/virtual production (Unreal Engine/Omniverse) you go to Tr/Xeon with ECC RAM because you dont want your software crash or your pc bluescreen (yes, I'm having this problems with my R9 3950X). Great videos tho!

[julianfiacconi]

Very informative. Thank you for this. Must have taken a lot of time and effort to compile these results, much appreciated.

[a]

For my 13900k and 14900k I have done the following: MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.5 GHz and E-core boost to 4.3GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC value. I have set voltage offset at a modest -0.015v and set the Core limit to 300 Amps. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95, CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Very happy and benchmarks are very close to where they were before taming these beasts.

[Real_MisterSir]

I love my 13900K, work primarily in Cinema 4D and Photoshop (and some Davinci here and there), and its the best money I've spent in recent years. One thing often overlooked, is the power consumption during medium and light loads, because sure when I'm running sick renders for hours it does eat a fair bit of power, but in my overall workflow I don't record more than 5-10% of high load. Most of the efforts spent during modelling, painting (I use Photoshop as a design tool more than a photo editing tool), and creating various assets, the 13900K sips power. The e-cores really are doing an amazing job, under normal load it uses the same power as my old cpu did during idle, which is more or less the same as the current day Ryzen chips. In my experience it's only when you push past 100-150w that the scale starts turning around, but overall I save so much power during the 90% of my workload that isn't pushing the cpu to its high capacity.

I regard it more as a hyper efficient cpu for common workload, that then calls in the 24 core cavalry when important battles have to be fought :D

[ExitOnTheInside]

DAW 1st, Editing 2nd Gaming 3rd . . . . pleased I've just snapped up a Mini-iTX z790 ; The build begins! Thanks for this

[Rajanarulmani]

Thanks for the detailed comparison bro .❤

[abaj]

Have you noticed the stuttering issues with your 13900k, as reported by Tech Yes City?

[bernardsantos]

I couldn't handle my system issues anymore during heavy After Effects workloads, which is every single project. So I jumped on the 5965wx from Puget. Probably gonna pair it with 2 4090s for a multi monitor setup. But I badly need a stable system with better storage and pcie capabilities.

Thanks for the review!

[shanent]

The TR Pros have varying amounts of L3 cache: 12-16 core 64MB, 24-32c 128MB, 64c 256MB. It's a shame there's no lower core count 256MB versions, but they probably wouldn't be any cheaper considering what they charge for the frequency-optimized EPYC 7003 series. I'm gonna try the 7950X3D, 7900XTX, 100GbE Chelsio NIC, and two PCIe 4.0 Optanes. The CPU, RAM, and motherboard are about ⅓ the price of the 5965wx platform though though it's also ⅓ the memory bandwidth, provided 4x32GB sticks of ECC runs at 4800Mbps. Kingston has some Hynix M-die ECC UDIMMs that are QVL for 4800 but they're on backorder, so I'll try the Crucial/Micron A-die for now, and we'll see what the recent Agesa update brings

[gheffz]

Love your style and delivery... great tech channel.

[joeyjojojr.shabadoo]

1) AM5 CPUs actually have 28 PCIe Lanes, with 4 connecting to the Chipset and 16+4+4 General Purpose (or 8+8+4+4 w/Bifurcation). You are still only guaranteed 16+4 Lanes as the other x4 may be used for onboard high speed peripheral connections, although MAY be left vacant for a 2nd CPU-Direct connected NVME. Depends on Motherboard/Manufacturer.
2) Intel LGA1700 CPUs have the equivalent of 28 lanes with 8x DMI lanes from CPU to Chipset and 16+4 General Purpose (or 8+8+4 w/Bifurcation). Intel chipsets also support far more high speed Lanes with a mix of Gen4/3 on Z690 and Gen 5/4 on Z790.
For Workstation, Choose AMD. For high End Consumer Desktop and PCIe Connectivity/Performance, Choose Intel. For 2nd Tier (B650 AMD, B660 Intel), Choose AMD. If you don't care about PCIe Lanes, choose whichever you like.

[Pc_Gaming]

@Technotice

7:59 the difference in the processor
13:08 resolve the percentage is green

[ScottAshmead]

you mention the memory bandwidth comparison but didn't show how effective it is in this comparison if you were to add the extra sticks on the threadrippers so not sure it is a fair comparison if you are limiting the threadripper .... adding the extra sticks on the other non-TRs will limit their performance because of their mem-controller but not utilizing the extra performance you can get on a TRs just leaves me thinking that I'm not getting the full story.

[whitehavencpu]

7:59 - I guess one mistake here is the Geekbench scores?
The single core scores that you displayed for the 5965wx, 7950x and 13900K are all the same at 2231, yet the difference that you highlighted is different for each of them.
Then the Multi scores for the 5965WX vs the 13900K...
You scored the same at 25469 for both CPUs, but highlighted a 1.90% difference for the 13900K, I'm assuming you pasted wrong score for the 13900K.

[tomsun]

@11:00 Premiere Pro the last 2 values for the 7950x are wrong or wrong coloured
The other 2 were already mentioned

[OficinadoArdito]

For render, if you are rendering on GPU, have a max of 2 GPUs, the 13900k or the 7950x with good chipsets are better options because in modelling the single core performance is more important, and it is the part that consumes most of my day. I would go for Threadripper only if I need more GPUs.

[besssam]

@thetechnotice non of the benchmark tools used in this video will show the power of the 8 channel memory on threadripper. You need to use computational fluid dynamics cfd bench tools and a really large cfd file and only then you will see how much of a great monster the threadripper cpu really is

[Albert-III]

The table at 8:24 seems to be incorrect. Single core values are the same for three of the cpus

Edit: I saw the pinned comment