Prof Rob Koons P2, Thomism

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[jamesearl]

Very nice follow up conversation. Seems like a knowledgeable and really nice guy.

[Lmaoh]

Very nice guy. Good conversation. It seems like the Thomist view of God is not all to different from Spinoza’s God/Substance/Nature and likewise Deleuze’s Plane of Immanence, the difference being that the Thomists see God as Transcendent, and Spinoza and Deleuze see this field/substance of simplicity and possibility as immanent—of the world, not “outside” it, as, at least Deleuze would say, transcendence isn’t a real distinction.

I do not understand Thomism much, but that’s what I took from this conversation.

[ThatisnotHair]

TJump need to make playlists. It's hard to track these videos

[ManicPandaz]

One million or bing red is a trait which is more simple than a name. A name is made up of a series of traits. A chair is made of many traits, one of them could be red or a collection of one million, but a name is what you add traits to. Conflating traits and names in terms of complexity is a mild equivocation.

While you could reduce the definition of concept to anything we think of, but that isn’t useful. On those terms, I would say that chairs are a concept, taxes are a concept, a story is a concept. One million chairs, one million dollars or one million books are traits of concepts. Not concepts them selves. “Whats your concept of a million dollars?” is a poorly asked question. A better question is “what would you do with a million dollars” or “what does a million dollars look like to me”. As the trait of one million only applies to objects and individuals.

[HoneyBadgerKait]

Which is better, Koons 1 or Koons 2? Do I need to have seen the first one before I watch the sequel?

[Iverath]

Prof. Rob Koons was surprisingly a lot on the back foot in this interview.

It might also be the case that Im too uneducated to get what was an obvious answer to a philosopher.

[blackbordeaux]

Thomistic simplicity is just ad hoc and confused