Twitter Vs. Threads Is Not The Big Story - WAN Show July 7, 2023

Timestamps: (Courtesy of NoKi1119)
0:00 Chapters
1:57 Intro
2:25 Topic #1 - Google accused for ripping off advertisers
4:34 Linus's & Luke's experience with creating ads
7:07 Hidden skip buttons, Googles' viability
10:22 GVS's CEOs' response, list of impacted brands
13:44 Topic #2 - EVGA's motherboard teams' resignation
14:08 EVGA's response, GN's review, shorter warranty
16:06 LTT's PSU video, EVGA's PSUs are out of stock
19:44 Topic #3 - Meta's Instagram Threads published
20:52 Linus doesn't understand IG, "this is genius"
23:10 Linus mentions Meta's mentality & Twitter
25:26 Luke on Threads, MrBeast, lack of account verification
28:07 Possible LTT account, Luke on "tweeting threads"
29:22 Luke explains Threads, Linus on the lack of websites for apps
31:44 Taking bets, Linus on Twitter limiting rates
33:50 Twitter threatens to sue, Meta's comeback
35:13 Linus on Elon firing people, Luke on Twitter's "revenue"
37:56 "How would you design a Twitter clone?"
38:57 Content moderation, Linus wishes Threads good luck
40:29 Threads was Project 92, ad-friendly V.S. censorship
42:30 Topic #4 - LinusTechTips's 24/7 LTT TV stream
45:49 LTT TV is participating in a Google trial
47:17 Discussing work on LTT TV, Dennis's sponsor spots
52:02 LTTStore's PCMR merch is live
52:57 LTTStore stubby screwdriver notification
53:20 "Lime Day" three days sale from the 12th to 14th
55:57 Luke suggests Lime Day stream, discussing shipping costs
58:09 Merch Messages #1 ft. Blaming Dan
58:40 Would LMG get to where Apple is ft. "Owning" land, Luke the slave
1:02:57 Why do people prefer NVIDIA's DLSS over FSR? ft. "LMG"
1:06:56 Topic #5 - G0at sued by Terasynth's CEO
1:07:40 Summarizing events, sued for NDA & defamation
1:10:13 DMCA to a Redditor for posting Terasnyth Discord screenshots
1:12:06 Topic #6 - Gfycat to shut down by 1st of September
1:13:40 Discussing image hosting sites, Snapchat V.S. WhatsApp
1:16:28 Topic #7 - France's law allows spying people
1:18:57 A plausible security breach, recalling Amazon
1:20:03 Discussing surveillance with LMG & devices
1:22:22 Air gap network switch with a physical disconnect
1:25:23 Luke on backdoors, Linus on laws & normalizing devices
1:29:25 Linus's & Luke's phone pics & usages
1:33:09 Sponsor - Blackpoint Cyber
1:33:51 Sponsor - Squarespace
1:34:31 Sponsor - Signalwire
1:35:13 Merch Messages #2
1:35:39 How did you build LMG & avoid burning up?
1:37:22 How would Matter change home automation?
1:38:34 Deciding which channel a topic belongs to?
1:40:42 Product that need improvement but you wouldn't tackle?
1:46:22 Luke's birds
1:47:07 Topic #8 - Jolly Roger's AI wastes salesperson' time
1:49:43 Topic #9 - Man sued over a thumbs-up emoji
1:55:48 Credit card IDing, tapping cards, credit rating
2:07:36 Topic #10 - Nintendo's annual report, low CEO compensation
2:08:17 Japanese CEOs compensation is lower than globally
2:09:01 Is there a diminishing return?
2:12:21 Topic #11 - TikTok now promotes books
2:14:19 Topic #12 - New 12VHPWR standard to support high wattage
2:15:12 Topic #13 - Fairphone is arriving to America
2:15:20 Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark
2:17:22 Linus's house pool updates
2:22:41 Starting with badminton with zero friends?
2:25:38 Do you agree with Louis Rossmann's take?
2:28:47 Editors' creative influence & LMG's guidelines?
2:32:00 How and why are Framework DIY kits cheaper?
2:32:55 Ever been tempted to stray from LMG's pro-consumer concept?
2:36:34 Floatplane merch? LTTStore tech pants ETA?
2:39:42 Would we be able to pick up our Lime Day orders at LTX?
2:40:45 Linus's issues with Z-Waves
2:41:21 Does Luke's love of birds extend to bird watching?
2:42:46 What changed with Linus's stance on PC retail after Labs?
2:45:53 What happened to the AMD GPU challenge?
2:48:38 How did Techlinked's video style come to be?
2:50:30 Advice for getting gig work despite NDA?
2:53:54 Linus's thoughts on switching to iOS?
2:54:18 TBD release date with the NAS product?
2:55:22 Learning to build an infrastructure with a budget?
2:57:26 ETA for the LTT stubby screwdriver?
2:57:57 Is this where you thought you'd be in your 30s?
3:02:21 Ever thought of sharing business tip advice?
3:03:36 Where to draw the line between protecting & sheltering children with tech?
3:04:15 Ever received feedback from Microsoft about the laptop sleep issues?
3:04:26 Craziest thing you've done on YouTube you never guessed you'd do?
3:04:40 Releasing plans for the LTT desk?
3:05:34 Tips with starting a company
3:06:24 A hot take on the printer industry?
3:06:55 Which Labs purchase excites you the most?
3:08:01 LTT women hoodies?
3:08:12 Possibility of merch messages getting transcripted?
3:08:48 Outro

[NoKi]

LTTCoin must be the official currency of Linus Municipal Government. -/s-
-Timestamps-
[0:00] *Chapters.*
[1:57] *Intro.*
[2:25] *Topic #1: Google accussed for ripping off advertisers.*
> 4:34 Linus's & Luke's experience with creating ads.
> 7:07 Hidden skip buttons, Googles' viability.
> 10:22 GVS's CEOs' response, list of impacted brands.
[13:44] *Topic #2: EVGA's motherboard teams' resignation.*
> 14:08 EVGA's response, GN's review, shorter warranty.
> 16:06 LTT's PSU video, EVGA's PSUs are out of stock.
[19:44] *Topic #3: Meta's Instagram Threads published.*
> 20:52 Linus doesn't understand IG, "this is genius."
> 23:10 Linus mentions Meta's mentality & Twitter.
> 25:26 Luke on Threads, MrBeast, lack of account verification.
> 28:07 Possible LTT account, Luke on "tweeting threads."
> 29:22 Luke explains Threads, Linus on the lack of websites for apps.
> 31:44 Taking bets, Linus on Twitter limiting rates.
> 33:50 Twitter threatens to sue, Meta's comeback.
> 35:13 Linus on Elon firing people, Luke on Twitter's "revenue."
> 37:56 "How would you design a Twitter clone?"
> 38:57 Content moderation, Linus wishes Threads good luck.
> 40:29 Threads was Project 92, ad-friendly V.S. censorship.
[42:30] *Topic #4: LinusTechTips's 24/7 LTT TV stream.*
> 45:49 LTT TV is participating in a Google trial.
> 47:17 Discussing work on LTT TV, Dennis's sponsor spots.
[52:02] *LTTStore's PCMR merch is live.*
> 52:57 LTTStore stubby screwdriver notification.
> 53:20 "Lime Day" three days sale from the 12th to 14th.
> 55:57 Luke suggests Lime Day stream, discussing shipping costs.
[58:09] *Merch Messages #1 ft. Blaming Dan.*
> 58:40 Would LMG get to where Apple is ft. "Owning" land, Luke the slave.
> 1:02:57 Why do people prefer NVIDIA's DLSS over FSR? ft. "LMG."
[1:06:56] *Topic #5: G0at sued by Terasynth's CEO.*
> 1:07:40 Summarizing events, sued for NDA & defamation.
> 1:10:13 DMCA to a Redditor for posting Terasnyth Discord screenshots.
[1:12:06] *Topic #6: Gfycat to shut down by 1st of September.*
> 1:13:40 Discussing image hosting sites, Snapchat V.S. WhatsApp.
[1:16:28] *Topic #7: France's law allows spying people.*
> 1:18:57 A plausible security breach, recalling Amazon.
> 1:20:03 Discussing surveillance with LMG & devices.
> 1:22:22 Air gap network switch with a physical disconnect.
> 1:25:23 Luke on backdoors, Linus on laws & normalizing devices.
[1:29:25] *Linus's & Luke's phone pics & usages.*
[1:33:09] *Sponsors.*
> 1:33:12 Blackpoint Cyber.
> 1:33:51 Squarespace.
> 1:34:31 Signalwire.
[1:35:13] *Merch Messages #2.*
> 1:35:39 How did you build LMG & avoid burning up?
> 1:37:22 How would Matter change home automation?
> 1:38:34 Deciding which channel a topic belongs to?
> 1:40:42 Product that need improvement but you wouldn't tackle?
[1:46:22] *Luke's birds. **_(VERY IMPORTANT, CLICK NOW)_*
[1:47:07] *Topic #8: Jolly Roger's AI wastes salesperson' time.*
[1:49:43] *Topic #9: Man sued over a thumbs-up emoji.*
> 1:55:48 Credit card IDing, tapping cards, credit rating.
[2:07:36] *Topic #10: Nintendo's annual report, low CEO compensation.*
> 2:08:17 Japanese CEOs compensation is lower than globally.
> 2:09:01 Is there a diminishing return?
[2:12:21] *Topic #11: TikTok now promotes books.*
[2:14:19] *Topic #12: New 12VHPWR standard to support high wattage.*
[2:15:12] *Topic #13: Fairphone is arriving to America.*
[2:15:20] *Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark.*
> 2:17:22 Linus's house pool updates.
> 2:22:41 Starting with badminton with zero friends?
> 2:25:38 Do you agree with Louis Rossmann's take?
> 2:28:47 Editors' creative influence & LMG's guidelines?
> 2:32:00 How and why are Framework DIY kits cheaper?
> 2:32:55 Ever been tempted to stray from LMG's pro-consumer concept?
> 2:36:34 Floatplane merch? LTTStore tech pants ETA?
> 2:39:42 Would we be able to pick up our Lime Day orders at LTX?
> 2:39:56 Is Microsoft's Volterra worth buying?
> 2:40:45 Linus's issues with Z-Waves.
> 2:41:21 Does Luke's love of birds extend to bird watching?
> 2:42:46 What changed with Linus's stance on PC retail after Labs?
> 2:45:20 Would Linus ever consider buying EVGA?
> 2:45:53 What happened to the AMD GPU challenge?
> 2:48:38 How did Techlinked's video style come to be?
> 2:50:30 Advice for getting gig work despite NDA?
> 2:53:54 Linus's thoughts on switching to iOS?
> 2:54:18 TBD release date with the NAS product?
> 2:55:22 Learning to build an infrastructure with a budget?
> 2:57:26 ETA for the LTT stubby screwdriver?
> 2:57:57 Is this where you thought you'd be in your 30s?
> 3:00:03 What projects was your favorite to film?
> 3:00:56 Thoughts on ASUS's ROG Ally.
> 3:02:21 Ever thought of sharing business tip advice?
> 3:03:36 Where to draw the line between protecting & sheltering children with tech?
> 3:04:15 Ever received feedback from Microsoft about the laptop sleep issues?
> 3:04:26 Craziest thing you've done on YouTube you never guessed you'd do?
> 3:04:40 Releasing plans for the LTT desk?
> 3:05:34 Tips with starting a company.
> 3:06:24 A hot take on the printer industry?
> 3:06:55 Which Labs purchase excites you the most?
> 3:08:01 LTT women hoodies?
> 3:08:12 Possibility of merch messages transcripted?
[3:08:48] *Outro.*

[BBlueBBasterd]

One very obnoxious downside of the 24/7 stream is that I can no longer click/tap the channel icon to go to the channel to find another video as it now links to that stream. Already accidentally ended up on that stream three times

[alexbiketester]

No one has mentioned how threads is not available for 450+ million people in EU because it would be illegal and go against how has all the commentary missed this HUGE point out....

[stickciv]

35:55 A huge part is that because Twitter is in California, a lot of those non-competes are unenforceable. So as long as ex-Twitter employees didn't take a copy of Twitters code, but instead just rewrote the same stuff again, they would probably be in the clear legally for the most part.

Of course, seems Twitter is taking offense to this since they did [edit: threaten to] sue Meta over Threads now.

[TylerL]

I honestly think the "after dark" logo would look better if the orange part went to purple or something. Would be a cool transition.

[fire_tower]

Hey Luke, I know you read the comments afterwards and just wanted to say thanks for listening to the community. Cheers

[Daedje]

I'm impressed that Linus can stay so calm when talking about the pool. I would absolutely be raging with how long it has taken and the amount of mistakes they made (and keep making)

[splllz]

One thing I would like with the LTTV is if you could inject your livestreams like wanshow etc into LTTV when it’s live I’m sure it’s harder than it seems but it would be really cool

[mytube]

The same thing as the French law already exists in Sweden, and goes further as it is less restricted. And not only that, there is now a proposed extension to it where even people who merely associate with suspects can be "monitored" in this way. It could be as simple as taking a drink with an old friend (who happens to be a suspected criminal) from high school, and you end up having your phone hacked, legally, by the police. It's insane!

[Pestacook]

I figure the 24/7 stream is to capture viewership from places such as businesses that want a "set and forget" thing to put on a TV in a business. people claim autoplay is the same but it isnt, it can (and does) send you down weird rabbitholes.

[_MIEW]

For those who are specifically having an issue with printers and proprietary ink, get an ink tank printer. The manufacturers cannot prevent you from putting unofficial liquids into your printer (just... still stick to ink).

[remelin]

When you were honest about earning some extra on the shipping, it actually made me want to buy. Honesty is worth more than that small amount of money.

[ryanblackwell]

I've never laughed as hard as when Luke said "technically we're just a long tube" being absolutely done with Linus's stuff.

[StewPedassle]

The honesty about the Lime Day shipping thing is probably the best thing you could do. The people it actually affects are going to be your strongest supporters, so I suspect they won't have an issue. And, if it is actually an issue where you make more money than expected, I don't doubt those who ordered a lot will get special offers in the future.

[steffenh]

57:10 Combining shipments to other countries like countries in the EU might cost your customers significant unexpected import taxes. Often there are limits in place under which you don't have to pay import taxes, but above you have to pay them on the whole contents of the shipment. Import taxes are usually calculated on a shipment basis, or if an order is split into different shipments on the order basis. Multiple separate orders in the same shipment will be summed up together, often exceeding the limits.

[aztracker]

On the timeframe for Threads, Facebook designed two of the key tools to pull it together. Cassandra and GraphQL along with the infrastructure, resources and developers with experience in the space.

[xtrcity]

The whole credit conversation is why financial literacy needs to a basic and mandatory part of your high school education, its absurd how many people just dont know how money in general works.

Its not a bad thing, your not the only one im just saying the education system really needs to step up and teach kids stuff theyll need to know throughout there life.

[TheNiters]

The comments about serving a text post to 100 million people is hard is true, but this is literally what all Facebook developers have been working on for the last few decades. They have some of the best experienced people in the world when it comes to scaling text-based threads. I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook is literally reusing their timeline backend code with a new UI on top.

[airjordankel]

“I don’t care about the age at all. The only thing that annoys me is how constantly broken/tired I feel”
- Luke 2023

Very relatable. Wan show mvp. Thanks Luke!

[costafilh]

For people mad about they taking the extra on the shipping, literally every company does that, they just don't talk about it. Same as "free shipping", discounts and 99% of marketing BS.