Intel Promises Arrow Lake Performance Fixes By December

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Lack of speed is one thing, but the fact that it's also expensive and unstable, yikes. Ls in all around

TheRenalicious
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Okay, 285K is not too fast. Can live with that, not a huge amount of people actually needs fastest CPU out there. It still can mostly catch up with 14700K/14900K, which means it's not SLOW, just not moving forward.

Okay, 285K is not most power efficient. But that was always a moot point, at least for gamers, outside of edge cases like absolute ovens of 13/14 gen or old AMD CPUs where you run into literal cooling problems. Not the case here, so we'll let it slip.

BUT WHAT ON BLOODY EARTH THEY WERE THINKING when they settled on over 600$ cost for that CPU?!?! When you can get better gaming, or better productivity, or in some cases BOTH at once CPUs for less money?! And that on top of new socket so that 600$ is not in vacuum and requires a new mobo to be bought?!

Price is actually by far the worst part of Arrow Lake launch. Everything else can be argued or negotiated. This price is inexusable.

gargean
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So, they didn't double check before launch?

Biggest companies, worse products.

Jun
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So, basically Intel is saying:
"We cherrypicked games, settings and hardwareconfigurations (already known by all because Intels small-prints told the whole story), saw that arrow lake is still behind our last gen about 5%. But when we saw, that reviewers confirmed our testings, it was not what we expected"?
Well, i think Intel has become a notorious liar. Not even a good one at that. I mean, arrow lake can still become acceptable and they dont even need to change anything but the price. Desktop-market/DIY is not their priority anyway. So loosing some Dollars here but getting the benefit of the doubt, should be more valuable for them. But no. It is not the best, but the most expensive One. Someone must tell Intel, that they cant do, what they did decades ago with their prices, before it is to late to course-correct.

enbe
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The reason we are all looking for a solution on gaming performance is due to the fact that Arrow Lake S doesn't perform that badly in other areas like productivity benchmarks. So it makes you wonder why gaming is so bad. I am sure they will find some tweaks for it and bump gaming performance to about 7% above 14900KS. It won't beat the 9800X3D, but at least perform better than its predecessors. The odd thing is that disabling hyperthreading in the past would make games run faster but in Arrow Lake S that comes without Hyperthreading it quite the opposite.

BodySculptTV
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8:51 Recent rumors seem to indicate that the 9950X3D isn't coming with V-cache on both CDDs.

Patrick
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The Intel upgrade will make the CPU as fast as a Ryzen 9800X3D. ...for 2 minutes.

RobertFromEarth
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I’ll wait for another generation now or go for 9800x3D now.

boomsatsuma
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What were they smoking? That's what I want to know.

jagz
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Why would anyone do business with Intel after they knowingly sold defective products and will not recall their processors?

tonkatoytruck
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A month ago you guys reported that Intel already admitted that Arrow Lake won't be the fastest gaming CPU, and now they're promising that some microcode patches and BIOS updates will make it the fastest gaming CPU? They already knew it wasn't going to bench good in games, so if they're pretending that it was in their benchmarks now, that's goofing hard.

CharlesVanNoland
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I just watched a video about Cyberpunk 2.2 patch which claimed a 30-33% perf boost with Arrow Lake...

stoicprotector
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If you want productivity get a threadripper. 13700kf I've had is a great gaming chip for 4k gaming and is okay for multi-threaded workloads.

vidiveniviciDCLXVI
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This is why people like Apple and console platforms, so they don’t have to deal with this kind of nonsense.

rezwhap
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What happened is months and months of layoffs that ****ed everything.

Nanerbeet
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yo they need to concert in that poison lake

djtomoy
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I doubt I will buy intel again any time soon, I just had to downgrade to a 12th gen (from a 13th) because my CPU killed itself. When I upgrade properly I'll look at AMD first. Intel just seems to have so many issues now.

darkmaster
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Everything Intel ends up in the Lake 👍

mrb
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I don't care what Intel does at this point. 15th gen failure is the last straw. I won't buy their CPUs for the next decade. AMD has me sold on 3D cache.

ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
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Intels only move really is to significantly drop the price on their Z890 platform, and paving the way for a huge leap in CPU performance for the next gen. Their only play is value per dollar. Doesnt have to be their core ultra 9 (can potentially market that as a productivity cpu), the core ultra 7 should take the huge hit in price. Make it a buget gamers cpu. They can then set themselves up for their customers being on their platform and then buying the 3rd gen core ultra CPU (provided they dont screw that one up).

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