Motorcycle Battery: Lithium VS. AGM

Gear Review | I live where most folks winterize their bikes. I never do, and never liked leaving my bikes on a trickle charger. Thankfully, I no longer have to. - Frank

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[ParallelCamper]

I like the jump start feature in a battery. Thanks for the video!

[Interbeing_CDN]

I agree, my KTM 390 originally had a cheap Exide BTX9-BS which started having issues within 4 months of purchase of the bike. I replaced it with a NOCO NLP9 Lithium, which was about a third the weight, and had close to twice the cranking power, Dynamic BMS, and fit perfectly into the bikes battery cradle. It does not have the bump start feature, which would be great, but at $76 and a 5 year warranty, I am a happy camper. I do carry a Lithium Jump Starter, but having the bump start feature would be one less thing to have to carry. Thanks for sharing!

[roysyntageros]

I'm with you Frank, lithium is the go. Plus the weight saving is bonus. Thanks for the video!

[verbalwidget]

Good comments on the battery choices Frank. I have lithium on the DR650 and KLR650 I'll get one for the V1050 in a few months. The Moose Lithium in the KLR has been flawless and dropped 9 pounds off my big girl. The DR650 has a Tusk lithium, and the first one went dead in 2 months, but to their credit they sent me a new one without even an exchange and I have not had any other issues with the new DR650 Tusk battery even after sitting 3 months it fired right up in the bitter cold of Phoenix🌵🥶. I'm sold on them. Happy Birthday to your better half, is it Parallel cones?

[mrcleanisin]

Every time you start your bike it draws a lot of current. How does the BMS know it needs to draw a lot of current?

[wfodavid]

Lithium batteries always like to be "waked up" before starting. Bump the button 1st before starting and it will keep your lithium happy.

[bigdave]

In years past Ive had batteries go dead overnight due to cold etc. In fact, i put down 249 miles on my bike yesterday. Battery is 5 mos. old on a bike with 7k miles on it. And this morning I woke up to 9 degrees. And the bike almost didn't have enough battery to fire. It was almost dead in the water and caught at the last breath. Its an AGM. We went from 48 degrees to 9 degrees overnight. It still should do better in my opinion. I've not educated myself enough on lithium batteries to make that choice yet. I do a lot of riding in weather in the 30-to-60-degree range. Will this be doable without issues with the lithium? Or is it just having them on a battery charger in these temps that makes the issue? I normally never put mine on charge. But just to be clear.

[jun]

Hello, I happened to find your channel and was surprised how my interest alights with your interests.

I have 2 questions -
Q1. what lithium product do you recommend for 790? ATZ? I was thinking about Tusk Lithium due to its price. About the jump start feature - to be clear, does it save a bit even when the battery initially indicates it’s depleted?

Q2. I plan to get the same rear rack. When you tie down your big bag (50L plus), do you find putting a bag aligned with the seat (so the whole bag area can be on the bike) is better than placing a bag crossed (so the middle section sits on the rack and both ends stick out)? Usually, I see people putting a bag crossed (for bigger sizes), then I find your NICECNC rack video, and you still align it. Is there any benefit of setting the bag up in this way? Thank you! Have a fun vacation.

[naufalwijaya]

Did you disconect the negative terminal while in storage??

[YperionGraphic]

In my motorcycle (bought new May 2024) buttery stop working (in fact completely dead). Shows 6V and can’t be charged… My use is about 1 or 2 days the week and have gps tracker. Before 4 days I took my bike for a ride and today battery is off….
So, for my use, I think that buying a lithium battery is no brainer!
From a little search that I did, these are the things you have to consider:
1) Has to be 12V (of course)
2) Has to be BMS !!
3) Most of them that is compatible with 12V 10Ah gel batteries, has 4Ah. I don’t know if this is ok, but there are some lithium that has 8Ah or higher.
4) Very important!! Cold Cranking Amperage, the higher the better, and more expensive, but makes the different! For most situations over 260 is ok and around 500 is more than enough.
That's from my search. If someone can add of correct me about, please do.

[RRRRefuelRideRace]

Great topic Frank. How much longer do you think the Lithium one would last than the AGM? Keep going and drop by to check my community tab. :)

[jaypence]

You just talked me into lithium...my 250l is battery is slowing down!

[thededicatedbiker]

I enjoyed your video. I liked and subscribed which I don't always do. I think you answered a question that I have been looking for. "thermal runaway" Whenever I see someone talking about "Lithium Batteries" in connection to vehicles I immediately think of those videos of electric scooters, electric motorcycles and electric public buses catching fire and burning like a small volcano. I'm guessing that's what you mean when you say thermal runaway. If I'm understanding you correctly it would be great if you could do a video explaining the difference between the Lithium Battery sold for motorcycles and the lithium batteries in electric vehicles and why they don't have "thermal runaway". Thanks

[KelsB]

Im going to remove it during cold weather n plce it in the house

[Leprechaun]

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Lithium Ion is shit in cold a sub degree weather

[GiPhoner]

Do you worry a low cost lithium battery (likely China made) may burst in flames while you are away? That is my only concern. I want to go lithium but can't get passed the idea of it bursting in flames one day.